Re: [xmca] Cultural Practices/Activities/etc

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

I am finding it interesting and challenging on many grounds, Andy. Many
thinkers prominent in recent xmca discussions are brought together there.
Not sure I understand it all, but what I do understand makes me want to
understand the rest better.

Has anyone out there in xmca-land read the whole thing who might like to
write a review?

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> I've ordered "Being Alive: Essays on Movement, Knowledge and Description,"
> Ingold's book, Mike, to read about his use of the idea of Umwelt. Reading
> the Prologue in the preview on Amazon, I read: "the essence of production
> lies as much or more in the attentional quality of the action - that is, in
> its attunement and responsiveness to /the task as it unfolds/ - and in its
> developmental effects on the producer, as in any images or representations
> of ends to be achieved that may be held up before it."
>
> This idea, which I take to be the /immanence /of the object of the
> activity, is the key revision of the conception of object-oriented Activity,
> I think, and what I call a "project." So, I look forward with interest to
> reading the whole book.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 23 August 2011 14:10, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:
>> lchcmike@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    How about umwelt, Andy?
>>    I warned you the survey was unsophisticated. Just the term
>>    envelope is a
>>    problem because it distinguish the envelope from its contents. Very
>>    difficult to get the "weaving/ co-constituting" impulse into
>>    environment/context/practice. of course, a woven tapestry is "just
>>    static,"
>>    relative to human experience, isn't it?
>>
>>
>> Is this in the same sense of "just going to the moon"?
>>
>> I think that the psychological warmth of the material is also derived from
>> the subject's ability to penetrate the medium.  i.e. the cultural operations
>> the material evokes for him/her in its fabrication (the inverse of
>> alienation).
>>
>> Also with respect to aesthetics, there is the workmanship of risk (David
>> Pye) in addition to the synthesis of sense.
>>
>> Huw
>>
>>
>>    mike
>>
>>    On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
>>    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    > Mike, reading through your excellent review of the different
>>    concepts of
>>    > context, along with event, situation, activity, practice, etc.,
>>    is that all
>>    > of them conceive of the "supra-individual" object of analysis as
>>    something
>>    > esssentially static, and despite many declarations to the
>>    contrary and
>>    > proofs that individuals can modify their enivironment (by
>>    whatever name) are
>>    > that to which human individuals have to conform. "Event" is a little
>>    > different, at least in the way it is used by some writers, but
>>    generally all
>>    > seem to conceive of context as condition. Although supposed to
>>    be the source
>>    > of motivation (in some versions), they may rise to the level of
>>    being the
>>    > source of reward, but I see nothing which expresses what I
>>    regard as the
>>    > inherent striving of human life. I think this is a problem.
>>    >
>>    > Andy
>>    >
>>    > mike cole wrote:
>>    >
>>    >> Attached is an attempt I made several years ago to summarize
>>    the different
>>    >> terms and their uses. It is not in the least sophisticated
>>    about many of
>>    >> those cited or not, but it covers some perhaps-useful information.
>>    >> mike
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