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Re: [xmca] Re: microgenesis?
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Your suggestion that attentuation of a retinal image may be an instance
of microgenetic development alerts me to the fact that I may not yet be
on the same page as you, Greg.
I heartily agree that the millisecond-level processes, such as those
which constitute perception and cognition, are worthy of the prefix
"micro-" This is the time scale at which situations have their genesis.
So, in so far as a concept may be said to be really existing I think it
is only at this micro- level. ... But is that what Mike is talking about
when he says "microgenetic development"?
Greg Thompson wrote:
And/or in line with Heinz Werner's work on microgenesis, what about
Mike's example of the attenuation and fading out of an image on the
retina (into H or B or 8)?
That is a microgenetic development, no?
It certainly fitz in with Werner's work - which seems cousin to
Vygotsky's work (hence my earlier question about links between
Vygotsky and the Leipzig school of Psychology).
But it does also seem like something different from how Wertsch has
developed the notion of microgenesis, but perhaps a bit closer to
I think this is a great start but that there is a lot more that needs
to be included in the genesis of that development, esp. vis a vis the
social context (what Andy might be calling "sociogenesis" - the
development of the situation), but psychophysical perceptual
developments seem like a good start.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Andy Blunden <firstname.lastname@example.org
Can I make a suggestion for what might be called a mirogenetic
Performance of a form of an action by a child, with assistance,
which survives the situation in which the assistance was given.
(with the proviso that the form of action is culturally meaningful).
mike cole wrote:
well we are sure agreed about the context dependent part. I
argue for different principles of change in what ... I refer
to as cultural-historical genesis. I am just real uncertain
about how to characterize more micro levels of
Wertsch's paper is one of several treatments of the topic, the
only one I could put my bytes on quickly and as a followup to
Vera's suggestion. There are other papers with other examples.
But first, what about what we have??
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