Re: [xmca] schools-without-computers-by-choice-and-conviction-that-they-dont-help-kids

[Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>]

On 27 October 2011 20:56, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 27 October 2011 20:47, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Huw,
>> Is reality really something to be "penetrated."
>> -greg
>>
>
> If you wish to get from one side of a city to another, there are finite
> ways of doing so using conventional transport.  If you wish to articulate
> that intention in terms of a particular route, you will have to mentally
> penetrate the fog of obstacles from A to B prior to an accurate
> articulation.  Does 'penetrating to reality' sound better?  Hopefully the
> gist is clear.
>
>
... but that also the intention successfully acted upon is a change and
thereby a form of penetrating reality.

Linking with ideas around transitional phenomena (and the like).

How does that sit, Greg?

Huw


> Huw
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>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
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>> > On 27 October 2011 19:17, Linda Polin <linda.polin@pepperdine.edu>
>> wrote:
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>> > >
>> > > On Oct 26, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Programming is part of a domain of articulated intentionality, of
>> > > > penetrating reality.  The issue with simplified environments is the
>> > > minimal
>> > > > penetration.  One is limited to a scope that was designed for.  The
>> > > spirit
>> > > > of programming goes beyond this to a deeper appreciation of
>> processes.
>> > >
>> > > I was trying to indicate the openness and range of the possible in
>> > > Minecraft, which doesn't sacrifice the playfulness that I find lacking
>> in
>> > > straight up programming except for people who enjoy debugging. I do
>> find
>> > it
>> > > hard to grok programming as uniquely "penetrating reality," though.
>> Could
>> > > you explain that? Perhaps I need "articulated intentionality" unpacked
>> as
>> > > well since I see most goal driven construction efforts, e.g., to
>> create a
>> > > machine in Minecraft, as articulated and intentional.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > I can't say I recall writing 'uniquely', Linda.
>> >
>> > Huw
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>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar
>> Department of Communication
>> University of California, San Diego
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