Those are both terrifically useful passages to think with, Larry and
Andy. Thanks. I (so to speak) really resonate to the notion of
rhythmicity and movement in the first passage, and the "doublebarrel"
metaphor in the second. I think for the latter that
barrel is perhaps unfortunate in so far as "two-way" /temporality/
is backgrounded.
thanks!
mike
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
<mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
What about this one Larry?
‘Experience’ is what James called a double-barreled word. Like
its congeners, life and history, it includes /what/ men do and
suffer, /what/ they strive for, love, believe and endure, and
/how/ men act and are acted upon, the ways in which they do and
suffer, desire and enjoy, see, believe, imagine – in short,
processes of /experiencing/. ... It is ‘double-barreled’ in
that
it recognizes in its primary integrity no division between act
and material, subject and object, but contains them both in an
unanalyzed totality. ‘Thing’ and ‘thought’, as James says
in the
same connection, are single-barreled; they refer to products
discriminated by reflection out of primary experience (1929
PJD:
256-7).
Andy
Larry Purss wrote:
Mike,
On page 12 of the article on Dewey's notionotion of
experience the theme
of experience AS
"life overcomes and transforms factors of opposition to
achieve higher
significance. Harmony and equilibrium are the resullts not of
mechanical
processes but of RHYTHMIC resolution of tension. The rhythmic
ALTERNATION
within the live creature BETWEEN unity and disunity becomes
CONSCIOUS in
humans. Emotion signifies BREAKS in experience which are then
resolved
through reflective action"
I thought this may be a way in to *start* the conversational
dialogue with
perezhivanie.
Larry
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Larry Purss
<lpscholar2@gmail.com <mailto:lpscholar2@gmail.com>> wrote:
Michael, Mike:
One more fragment on the definition of sentipensante:
Sentipensante pedagogy offers a transformative vision of
education that
emphasizes the harmonic, complementary relationship
between the sentir of
intuition and the pensar of intellect and scholarship;
between teaching and
learning; between formal knowledge and wisdom; and between
Western and
non-Western ways of knowing.
Seems to have some family resemblance to this theme of
experience
Larry
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Larry Purss
<lpscholar2@gmail.com <mailto:lpscholar2@gmail.com>> wrote:
Mike,
Thanks for this.
Stanford Pub is a wonderful resource. I seem to
download an author
approximately once a month. For $10 you support them
and get the articles
sent in a PDF format.
Michael , here is a link [in Spanish] to a youtube
video of Orlando
Fals-Borda discussing his understanding of experience
from the heart.
If you have any articles in English which you can
share, this seems to be
exploring experience within "felt awareness".
Seems to be a fascinating expansion of the
understanding of experience.
Thanks, Michael and Mike
Larry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJWqetRuMo
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM, mike cole
<lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Larry. Viva la differencia. Here is a quick
summary of Dewey on
experience. Note that his ideas are considered
unusual by the author.
That
Stanford pub seems very useful.
mike
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/dewey-aesthetics/#HavExp
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Larry Purss
<lpscholar2@gmail.com <mailto:lpscholar2@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Michael,
I also found this site for Orlando Fals Borda.
http://comm-org.wisc.edu/si/falsborda.htm
If it is off topic please ignore. However, it
is where my curiosity was
called or invited.
Larry
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Glassman,
Michael <
glassman.13@osu.edu <mailto:glassman.13@osu.edu>
wrote:
Perhaps another avenue to
explore might be Ortega y Gasset's ideas on
experience (which is probably in some ways
reflective of Dewey)
which was
appropriated by Orlando Fals Borda in the
concept of vivencia -
which is
very compelling - and became an important
part of Fals-Borda's
conception
of Participatory Action Research. This
might then tie back to the
earlier
issue on PAR.
Michael
________________________________________
From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
<mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>
[xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
<mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>] on
behalf
of mike cole [lchcmike@gmail.com
<mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:28 PM
To: Beth Ferholt
Cc: Galina Zuckerman; John Shotter; Boris
Meshcheryakov; eXtended
Mind,
Culture, Activity; James Wertsch;
Alexander Asmolov
Subject: Re: [xmca] Perezhivanie and
Dewey's concept of experience
Thanks Beth--
I ask, firstly, because there appear quite
clear overlaps as you and
Monica
have been exploring.
Secondly, we have two submissions to MCA
on perezhivanie that are
very
focused on Russian authors. Over and above
competing
exegeses of the ideas of Vygotsky,
Puyzerei, etc., it seems important
that
we figure out ways to explore different
ways of thinking about the
general
category of "experience" that will be
productive of new empirical and
theoretical investigation.
mike
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Beth
Ferholt <bferholt@gmail.com
<mailto:bferholt@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Monica and I have just started using
the two concepts in
conjunction,
as
we write about the relation between
play and learning and Dewey's
ideas
on
the relation between art and science
in Art and Experience. I am
very
interested in any ref. you find as I
have found none yet. Can I
ask why
you
ask now? Beth
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM, mike
cole <lchcmike@gmail.com
<mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Has anyone written on uses of the
term perezhivanie as used in the
cultural
historical tradition and Dewey's
concept of experience?
references?
mike
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
<mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
--
Beth Ferholt
Assistant Professor
School of Education
Brooklyn College, City University of
New York
2900 Bedford Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11210-2889
Email: bferholt@brooklyn.cuny.edu
<mailto:bferholt@brooklyn.cuny.edu>
Phone: (718) 951-5205
Fax: (718) 951-4816
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
<mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
<mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Andy Blunden*
Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy/>
Book: http://www.brill.nl/concepts
http://ucsd.academia.edu/AndyBlunden
__________________________________________
_____
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca