Re: [xmca] Hallucinating Romantic Science

[Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>]

Hi Greg

Martin's "Introduction" is the 1st chapter in his edited book with Mark
Tappen which was published in 2001.The book is titled "Cultural and
Critical Perspectives on Human Development". On page 6 of the introductory
chapter Martin references Shweder's ancestral lineage.

Martin cites his source on the roots of Shweder's  ancestral lineage as
referenced from Shweder's 1991 book "Thinking Through Cultures: Expeditions
in Cultural Psychology" [page 40 and page 72].

Greg, the notion of resisting classification while at the same time
acknowleging the notion of  developing within an ancestral lineage may be
different ways of exploring similar questions.
I was intrigued by Mike's answer that Shweder was answering questions
developed in response to the Enlightenment which opens up further questions
exploring the living conversations which proceeded among our ancestors.
Greg, your additional commentary on the resistance to being classified, but
at the same time wanting to honour and acknowledge our ancestors, is
another one of those contradictions [ambivalences??] which I find
fascinating.

Larry




On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>wrote:

> Larry,
> Where is the introduction where Martin locates Shweder's roots?
>
> Also, I would say that Shweder is a Romantic in the German Romantic sense
> (and no, that's not an oxymoron!), but not necessarily in the same line as
> Luria.
>
> So, as with most slippery academics, expect conflicting reports about his
> status (and as with many academics, imho, he actively seeks to escape
> classification).
>
> -greg
>
> p.s. note the spelling: "Shweder"
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Huw for this video link.
> >
> >  On this topic of  Romantic science, where do others locate Shweder's
> > understanding of "intentional worlds" within the notion of romantic
> > science? Do others connect Shweder with Bruner, Cole, and Luria in the
> > exploration of *romantic science"?  There are differences in emphasis
> among
> > these various authors but is there also overlap??
> >
> > Shweder wrote: Cultural Psychology is premised on existential UNCERTAINTY
> > (the search for meaning) and on a (so-called) "intentional" conception of
> > "constituted" worlds" [from the introduction chapter of Martin Packer's
> and
> > Mark Tappan's edited book "Cultural and Historical Perspectives of Human
> > Development" page 6].
> >
> > Shweder's exploration of the ethical and moral dimensions within
> > constituted "intentional" worlds seems to interlink with Bruner's notion
> of
> > "possible Worlds, Actual Minds" which seems to share similar notions of
> > cultural psychology with Shweder.
> >
> > Martin, in his introduction, locates the lineage of Scweder's "cultural
> > psychology" with "Aberlard, Herder, Hegel, Heidegger, and Brentano as one
> > stream.  Other ancestral lines are Levy-Bruhl, Wittgenstein, Cicourel,
> > D'Andrade, Geertz, Kleinman, and Sapir.
> >
> > I wonder if the cultural historical understanding of human nature
> existing
> > within the "gap" between time T and time T+1 can be linked to Shweder's
> > notion of the existential search for meaning as ALWAYS UNCERTAIN?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 3 January 2013 21:18, <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wonderful little piece with lots of the classic quotes from romantic
> > > > science (e.g., "murder to dissect").
> > > > New to me was the sacks luria link.
> > > > Any chance you could elaborate mike? Or anyone else?
> > > > -Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > There's a video of Mike interviewing Sachs & Bruner, in which they both
> > > elaborate on Luria, on lchc someplace.
> > >
> > > I recommend it.
> > >
> > > Huw
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 2, 2013, at 2:23 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The following review of a new book by Oliver Sachs talks some about
> > > > > romantic science.
> > > > > FYI
> > > > > mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/books/review/hallucinations-by-oliver-sacks.html?ref=books&_r=0
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