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Interested, indeed. Most curious, were this book of 1950s, more likely 1960s, but please find the reference, that would help. AY ________________________________ From: Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:49:23 PM Subject: Re: [xmca] empirical evidence (Kohlberg et al., 1968 testing Vygotsky) It is late here so maybe my memory is not 100%... But last year I remenber reading a book from David Ausubel were while criticizing Piaget he cites Vygotsky, or that is what I recall, and the book first edition was on the 50's or 60's... I can try to find this if anyone is interested.. Wagner Luiz Schmit Brazil 2012/6/24 Michael Glassman <MGlassman@ehe.osu.edu> > I am thinking Kohlberg got his knowledge of Vygotsky through Piaget. > Didn't Piaget write his response to Vygotsky in 1962? I don't know why > but that sticks in my mind. Kohlberg was sending at least some of his > students to Geneva during that period. Possibly one or more of those > people brought Vygotsky and Thought and Language back. I remember talking > some years back with somebody who was in Geneva during the period who said > Piaget kept saying Vygotsky misunderstood him. Who knows, but it seems > plausible. > > Michael > > ________________________________ > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu on behalf of Anton Yasnitsky > Sent: Sun 6/24/2012 9:16 PM > To: Martin Packer; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: Re: [xmca] empirical evidence (Kohlberg et al., 1968 testing > Vygotsky) > > > > True and thanks for a copy, but there is no evidence (as of now) whether > Flavell new and was utilizing any of Vygotsky in his paper of 1966, -- is > there? > > > ... But, frankly, who cares, after all :) > > > AY > > > > ________________________________ > From: Martin Packer <packer@duq.edu> > To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture, > Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:43:07 PM > Subject: Re: [xmca] empirical evidence (Kohlberg et al., 1968 testing > Vygotsky) > > But Flavell had presented a paper on the same topic 4 years earlier, and > was credited in a footnote. > > > > On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Anton Yasnitsky wrote: > > > For Vygotsky, Kohlberg, of Harvard, certainly would not need mediation > of Flavell: the book had come out in 1962, and was orchestrated by the > bunch of guys at Harvard, > > which clearly was a stronghold of Vygotsky's admirers back then, i.e. in > 1960s and 1970s. > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca