Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery

[Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>]

I have to admit, you folks are stirring up my inner Sapir-Whorf
.....fascinating!

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Nothing, Andy. That's why I want to oppose the ideal to the real, and not
> to the material.
>
>              ARTEFACT:
> Tool-artefact       Utensil-artefact
> (mass production)  (personal consumption)
>
>                 SIGN
> Signal-sign         Symbol-sign
> (thing-thing)        (meaning-meaning)]
>
>         MATERIALITY
> Reality               Ideality
> (percepts)          (concepts)
>
> David Kellogg
> Seoul National University of Education
>
> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:02 PM
>
>
> What would be an example of something which is ideal but not also material,
> David?
> andy
> David Kellogg wrote: ...
> > It seems to me that if we follow Steve and Ilyenkov, and we see problem
> after problem as a matter of establishing the interaction of "ideal" and
> "material", we will need some kind of super-category for the indivisible
> whole which both ideal and material make up. Otherwise we really do fall
> into the worst kind of Cartesian dualism. ...
> >
>
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