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Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery
To David
I am very concerned about the need to make a decision to require/invent a
new term, specifically "utensils". What's wrong with using the notion of
tools and then putting them in the context in which they are used?
Proliferating terms means they start to grow arms and legs and maybe violate
the axioms of one's theory. "Tools" has an impeccable ancestry.
In a collaborative project, what virtue would there be using "utensils"
rather than "tools"?
Larry, sorry for interrupting your conversation. I just left too much time
to reply to David.
Carol
On 19 October 2010 14:22, Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu> wrote:
> I have to admit, you folks are stirring up my inner Sapir-Whorf
> .....fascinating!
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Nothing, Andy. That's why I want to oppose the ideal to the real, and not
> > to the material.
> >
> > ARTEFACT:
> > Tool-artefact Utensil-artefact
> > (mass production) (personal consumption)
> >
> > SIGN
> > Signal-sign Symbol-sign
> > (thing-thing) (meaning-meaning)]
> >
> > MATERIALITY
> > Reality Ideality
> > (percepts) (concepts)
> >
> > David Kellogg
> > Seoul National University of Education
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery
> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:02 PM
> >
> >
> > What would be an example of something which is ideal but not also
> material,
> > David?
> > andy
> > David Kellogg wrote: ...
> > > It seems to me that if we follow Steve and Ilyenkov, and we see problem
> > after problem as a matter of establishing the interaction of "ideal" and
> > "material", we will need some kind of super-category for the indivisible
> > whole which both ideal and material make up. Otherwise we really do fall
> > into the worst kind of Cartesian dualism. ...
> > >
> >
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