Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery

[Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>]

My inner Sapir-Whorf has been equally challenged Robert!
andy
Robert Lake wrote:
> I have to admit, you folks are stirring up my inner Sapir-Whorf
> .....fascinating!
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM, David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>   
> > Nothing, Andy. That's why I want to oppose the ideal to the real, and not
> > to the material.
> >
> >              ARTEFACT:
> > Tool-artefact       Utensil-artefact
> > (mass production)  (personal consumption)
> >
> >                 SIGN
> > Signal-sign         Symbol-sign
> > (thing-thing)        (meaning-meaning)]
> >
> >         MATERIALITY
> > Reality               Ideality
> > (percepts)          (concepts)
> >
> > David Kellogg
> > Seoul National University of Education
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery
> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:02 PM
> >
> >
> > What would be an example of something which is ideal but not also material,
> > David?
> > andy
> > David Kellogg wrote: ...
> >     
> > > It seems to me that if we follow Steve and Ilyenkov, and we see problem
> > >       
> > after problem as a matter of establishing the interaction of "ideal" and
> > "material", we will need some kind of super-category for the indivisible
> > whole which both ideal and material make up. Otherwise we really do fall
> > into the worst kind of Cartesian dualism. ...
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