Re: [xmca] "Internal dynamics of disease" (Luria apud Zeignarnik)

From: bella kotik <bella.kotik who-is-at gmail.com>
Date: Tue Oct 28 2008 - 13:05:32 PDT

*Лурия P. А*. Внутренняя картина болезни и патогенные заболевания. М., 1944.

I do not have any information about it's availiability. I made an effort via
google.ru but could not find. May be in Moscow it would be possible to find,
but I am in Jerusalem now.
Bella Kotik-Friedgut

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Achilles Delari Junior <
achilles_delari@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thank you, Bella,
>
> I was thinking that "R.A" was a typographic mistake... Mistake of mine.
> But, can you tell me the work quoted by Zeigarnik, and say something
> about it's availability? And, about this reference:
>
> LURIA, A.R. Internal description of illness and pathogenic diseases.Moscow,
> 1944.
>
> It's realy from Alexander Romanovich? There is means to obtain it? Can you
> help
> me, telling me the Russian title?
>
> Thank you for your patience and help.
> Achilles.
>
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:56:11 +0200
> > From: bella.kotik@gmail.com
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] "Internal dynamics of disease" (Luria apud
> Zeignarnik)
> >
> > Roman Albertovich Luria was the father of Alexander Romanovich Luria. It
> > was R.A. Who R. A. Luria introduced the concept of "internal dynamics of
> > disease," but it is often mistakenly cited (both in English and in
> Russian)
> > as belonging to his famous son.
> >
> >
> > Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:28 AM, delari <delari@uol.com.br> wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings for all,
> > >
> > >
> > > Please, can you give me a little help with a Luria's book?
> > >
> > > Bluma V. Zeigarnik quotes Luria's concept of "internal dynamics of
> disease"
> > >
> > > "The well-known Soviet therapist R. A. Luriya introduced the concept of
> > > "internal dynamics of disease," by which he means "all that which the
> > > patient experiences and feels, the entire aggregate of his sensations,
> not
> > > only local sensations due to his illness but also his general feeling
> about
> > > himself, his self-observation, how he represents his illness to himself
> > > (Withrespect to its causes), all that which is linked with approaching
> a
> > > physician - that entire internal world of the patient, which consists
> of
> > > very complex combinations of perceptions and sensations, emotions,
> affects,
> > > conflicts, mental feelings, and trauma." He indicated that the behavior
> and
> > > mental processes of the individual are changed at the very moment when
> he
> > > learns about his illness."(ZEIGARNIK, 1972, P.133)
> > >
> > > ZEIGARNIK, B. V. Experimental Abnormal psychology [In fact: "Vvedenie v
> > > patopsikhologiyu" = "Introduction to Pathopsychology"]. Chapter 6 -
> > > Personality disturbances in the mentally ill. New York, London: Plenum
> > > Press. 1972. p. 109-136. [I attached a copy of the chapter]
> > >
> > > She don´t give the date of the quotation, there are 8 titles by Luria
> at
> > > her bibliography. And I believe that the quoted about "internal
> dynamics of
> > > disease" must be this:
> > >
> > > LURIA, A.R. Internal description of illness and pathogenic diseases.
> > > Moscow, 1944.
> > >
> > > Is there any means to legally obtain a payed or free copy from this
> book,
> > > even most probably in Russian?
> > >
> > > Can you help me?
> > >
> > > Thank you, very much, for your attention and patience.
> > >
> > > Achilles.
> > >
> > >
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