Thank you, Bella,
I was thinking that "R.A" was a typographic mistake... Mistake of mine.
But, can you tell me the work quoted by Zeigarnik, and say something
about it's availability? And, about this reference:
LURIA, A.R. Internal description of illness and pathogenic diseases.Moscow, 1944.
It's realy from Alexander Romanovich? There is means to obtain it? Can you help
me, telling me the Russian title?
Thank you for your patience and help.
Achilles.
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:56:11 +0200
> From: bella.kotik@gmail.com
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: [xmca] "Internal dynamics of disease" (Luria apud Zeignarnik)
>
> Roman Albertovich Luria was the father of Alexander Romanovich Luria. It
> was R.A. Who R. A. Luria introduced the concept of "internal dynamics of
> disease," but it is often mistakenly cited (both in English and in Russian)
> as belonging to his famous son.
>
>
> Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:28 AM, delari <delari@uol.com.br> wrote:
>
> > Greetings for all,
> >
> >
> > Please, can you give me a little help with a Luria's book?
> >
> > Bluma V. Zeigarnik quotes Luria's concept of "internal dynamics of disease"
> >
> > "The well-known Soviet therapist R. A. Luriya introduced the concept of
> > "internal dynamics of disease," by which he means "all that which the
> > patient experiences and feels, the entire aggregate of his sensations, not
> > only local sensations due to his illness but also his general feeling about
> > himself, his self-observation, how he represents his illness to himself
> > (Withrespect to its causes), all that which is linked with approaching a
> > physician - that entire internal world of the patient, which consists of
> > very complex combinations of perceptions and sensations, emotions, affects,
> > conflicts, mental feelings, and trauma." He indicated that the behavior and
> > mental processes of the individual are changed at the very moment when he
> > learns about his illness."(ZEIGARNIK, 1972, P.133)
> >
> > ZEIGARNIK, B. V. Experimental Abnormal psychology [In fact: "Vvedenie v
> > patopsikhologiyu" = "Introduction to Pathopsychology"]. Chapter 6 -
> > Personality disturbances in the mentally ill. New York, London: Plenum
> > Press. 1972. p. 109-136. [I attached a copy of the chapter]
> >
> > She don´t give the date of the quotation, there are 8 titles by Luria at
> > her bibliography. And I believe that the quoted about "internal dynamics of
> > disease" must be this:
> >
> > LURIA, A.R. Internal description of illness and pathogenic diseases.
> > Moscow, 1944.
> >
> > Is there any means to legally obtain a payed or free copy from this book,
> > even most probably in Russian?
> >
> > Can you help me?
> >
> > Thank you, very much, for your attention and patience.
> >
> > Achilles.
> >
> >
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