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Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
Wonderful. I look forward to reading it.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Bella Kotik-Friedgut <bella.kotik@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, November 16, 2012 5:17 am
Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Chuck exactly today I just received proofs of my paper: GERMINATED SEEDS:
> THE DEVELOPMENT OF VYGOTSKY’S PSYCHOLOGY OF ART IN HIS EARLY JOURNALISTIC
> PUBLICATIONS (1916-1923),
> but because I found there some mistakes I'll attach it later with a
> link to
> the journal of my college where it will be published soon.
> Bella Kotik-Friedgut
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Chuck Bazerman <bazerman@education.ucsb.edu
> > wrote:
>
> > Is anything being done about his pre-psychology drama and book reviews?
> > Since language and literacy turned out to be so crucial to his later
> > development, these might be of some value in understanding some of his
> > approach. I know I have found the psychology of art quite
> useful--and have
> > made some commentary on the translated version connecting it to some
> of his
> > later thinking. This is in a book manuscript which I am hoping to publish
> > next year. Chuck
> >
> >
> > mike cole wrote:
> >
> >> I'll set about doing some scanning, Anton.
> >> mike
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sure Mike: as it has been announced, ALL items on the list of Vygotsky's
> >>> works published during his lifetime
> >>> will be electonically republished in different formats (i.e. as
> scans and
> >>> as text files in doc, html, and/or pdf)
> >>> in the near future. So, any originals of Vygotsky will be gladly
> and most
> >>> gratefully accepted.
> >>>
> >>> Our definite priority at this point is:
> >>> (a) larger works, such as books and paper collections
> >>> (b) that were not included --or were most ferociously distorted--
> in the
> >>> six-volume Collected Works
> >>>
> >>> Thus, for instance, "Pedologiia podrostka" [Paedology of adolescent]
> >>> (vols
> >>> 1 & 2, 1929 & 1930 respectively)
> >>> or, for example, "defectological" volume of collected works of various
> >>> authors, edited by Vygotsky (1924),
> >>> are already online, accessible 24/7. Neither has ever been republished
> >>> until now. The rest of the kind will follow.
> >>>
> >>> However, other works -- smaller or relatively unharmed by Soviet editions
> >>> -- are also of considerable interest.
> >>>
> >>> Luria, as well as virtually any other member of Vygotsky Circle,
> is of
> >>> enormous interest, and many thanks for your offer.
> >>> Yet, his works -- for copyright reasons -- should be treated with
> certain
> >>> care. I should think it over.
> >>>
> >>> A "small collection of 1920's Russian journals", however, is of
> >>> tremendous
> >>> interest, so the more you might have
> >>> in any scanned format -- as collections of image files (tiff, png,
> jpeg,
> >>> etc.) or one file pdf -- the better!
> >>> These are absolutely invaluable and will be uploaded among other journal
> >>> materials that we currently
> >>> have access to. Just please let me know the concrete details of these
> >>> publications whenever you feel
> >>> you might be able to get them scanned/copied/shared, etc. Alternatively,
> >>> in case of any complications,
> >>> we could provide scanning as soon as PsyAnima team has access to these
> >>> materials.
> >>>
> >>> Izvestia APN that you mentioned are in principle also available,
> but not
> >>> fully accessible yet.
> >>> PsyAnima can do quite a lot, virtually anything, but,
> unfortunately, not
> >>> all at the same time. So, this stuff will be released
> >>> somewhat later, in due time.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, Dubna might be a nice place that, incidentally, presently
> hosts
> >>> PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal,
> >>> but it is not unlikely that in the foreseeable future the whole
> >>> enterprise
> >>> eventually and entirely goes global and
> >>> looses its geographic denomination, becoming, thus, just a PsyAnima,
> >>> Psychological Journal :). Also, I truly hope
> >>> that neither Dubna nor any other place within Russian Federation will
> >>> ever
> >>> become " the center of the universe",
> >>> which might looks like a pretty nightmarish perspective for the
> >>> civilization :).
> >>>
> >>> However, speaking of the " the center of the universe ", you are
> >>> certainly right in one respect:
> >>> it is the *PsyAnima* anonymous and globally distributed group of
> >>> scholars,
> >>> experts and activists
> >>> that is going to soon become " the center of the universe ", indeed!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> >>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> >>> *Cc:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; ulvi
> >>> icil
> >>> <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:48:36 AM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do
> now?)
> >>>
> >>> Do you have a list of texts you are anxious to reprint and make
> >>> available,
> >>> Anton? I have made about all the Luria stuff in journal form available
> >>> online free. I do have copies of some of his books in English
> >>> or Russian. I have a small collection of various 1920's Russian journals
> >>> I
> >>> obtained from Luria. Rossolimo
> >>> and others.
> >>>
> >>> Would pdfs of those materials be useful?
> >>>
> >>> I have been wondering about the availability of Izvestia APN for the
> >>> 1940's and 1950's. Do they exist in an accessible archive somewhere?
> >>>
> >>> Soon Dubna will be the center of the universe!
> >>>
> >>> mike
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> More or less correct, Mike.
> >>>
> >>> In terms of support, here is the list of procedures, actions, and
> >>> operations that participation in the project involves:
> >>>
> >>> 1) acquiring (i.e. copying, borrowing, scanning, purchasing) the texts
> >>> 2) scanning
> >>> 3) text recognition: automated, manual and combination of both
> >>> 4) creating doc/pdf files: formatting , typesetting, etc.
> >>> 5) uploading and distributing the product online FREE OF CHARGE
> FOR THE
> >>> READERs
> >>>
> >>> That's basically it. Another set of activities is related to research
> >>> (historical, textological, theoretical, etc.) work,
> >>> then, importantly, translating this research into roughly half dozen
> >>> languages of international Vygotskian science,
> >>> thus, importantly, creating a layer of expert commentaries to the
> texts
> >>> (same issues as in research), --
> >>>
> >>> but all this is some sort of super-structure. The basis is the
> texts and,
> >>> having the texts, we can research or
> >>> translate, or even print them out :). But the core needs to be created
> >>> first.
> >>>
> >>> So, back to your question. We need any support that will help us
> to move
> >>> further--people, partners, sponsors--
> >>> whatever facilitates the development and improves the quality of the
> >>> project. We have had rumours about texts
> >>> instead of the texts for tooooo long. Enough: the time for action
> has
> >>> come.
> >>>
> >>> AY
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> >>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> >>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>> *Cc:* ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:37:21 PM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
> >>>
> >>> It appears that you are lacking any support from the united states,
> >>> England, or Australia, Anton. Is that correct?
> >>>
> >>> If so, what sort of participation, support, and attention are you
> >>> seeking?
> >>>
> >>> The text of a Luria text on monism and psychoanalysis that appears
> in the
> >>> Kornilov volume is available from a translation in Soviet
> Psychology, I
> >>> believe. It probably is not a translation up to your standards,
> but some
> >>> might find it useful.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck with your ambitious project.
> >>> mike
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Given that, as a series of recent studies most convincingly show,
> we do
> >>> not know what exactly "Russian Vygotsky" is,
> >>>
> >>> and what we have instead is a bunch of texts distorted and/or falsified
> >>> by
> >>> their editors, -- in other words --
> >>>
> >>> we do not have a reliable collection of *original* Vygotsky's
> works --
> >>>
> >>> certain amount of work needs to be done to dis- and un-cover the original
> >>> Vygotsky, in Russian, first.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Later, a similar English/ Portuguese/ Italian/ German/ French/ Spanish/
> >>> Hebrew/ Arabic/ Pharsi/ Turkish, etc.
> >>>
> >>> "Complete Vygotsky" project might be launched, if needed and if anybody
> >>> is
> >>> interested. However, a solid
> >>>
> >>> foundation of original Russian texts is a prerequisite of any further
> >>> international developments of the kind.
> >>>
> >>> Also, comprehensive textological and historiographic work and a solid
> >>> layer of expert scholarly commentaries is a must
> >>> if we ever aim to have a major comprehensible collection of Vygotsky's
> >>> text, regardless of language,
> >>> that is, in Russian or in translation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ______________________________**__
> >>> From: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> >>> To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> >>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:35:34 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In Russian or in English?
> >>>
> >>> Ulvi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2012/11/14 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> >>>
> >>> Finally, complete works of L.S. Vygotsky are in press: PsyAnima Complete
> >>> Vygotsky --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Volunteers, partners, and sponsors are needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> The project is affiliated with PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal.
> >>>>
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> Sincerely yours Bella Kotik-Friedgut
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