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Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
- To: "Ana Paula B. R. Cortez" <apbrcortez@yahoo.com.br>, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
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- From: Tony Whitson <twhitson@UDel.Edu>
- Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
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Thanks, Ana, and very nicely translated.
Although he ends that quote with "communication," his idea of reading as
an active re-writing of both word and world ("palavramundo," which he uses
as a single word or word-world) I think goes beyond what normally is meant
by "communication."
At the end of his important early conference talk "On the Importance of
the Act of Reading," he starts "Concluindo ..." and then says he "would
like to say" what he then does say concerning his deliberate decision to
address the topic as he did, which was in vivid autobiographical terms of
coming to be an active person in the physical as well as social world.
Amazingly, what Freire announced as what he "would like to say" in
concluding his talk is simply omitted from the English version in the
_Literacy_ book.
People often do not see how Freire strains to use the language to say
things different from what's usually said. Even the friendly and familiar
Donaldo Macedo may not have seen Freire's concluding remark as adding
anything significant.
But it is about the difference between reading and 'reading.'
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Ana Paula B. R. Cortez wrote:
Hello, everyone!
Here is Freire's definition of reading, in "Carta de Paulo Freire aos professores" (Freire's letter to teachers - In Portuguese at: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-40142001000200013)
"Ler é uma operação inteligente,
difícil, exigente, mas gratificante. Ninguém lê ou estuda
autenticamente se não assume, diante do texto ou do objeto da
curiosidade a forma crítica de ser ou de estar sendo sujeito da
curiosidade, sujeito da leitura, sujeito do processo de conhecer em
que se acha. Ler é procurar buscar criar a compreensão do lido; daí,
entre outros pontos fundamentais, a importância do ensino correto da
leitura e da escrita. É que ensinar a ler é engajar-se numa
experiência criativa em torno da compreensão. Da compreensão e da comunicação."
My free translation of the extract:
"Reading is an intelligent, difficult, demanding, but
gratifying operation. Nobody authentically reads or studies if, facing the text or the object of his/her curiosity, he/she doesn't take a critical stance as the subject of curiosity, the subject of reading, the subject of the process of knowing where he/she is. Reading is to try to create the understanding of what's being read; therefore, among other crucial points, there lies the importance of teaching reading and writing in a correct way. Teaching how to read means engaging in a creative experience revolving understanding. Understanding and communication."
Well, I don't think there is anything else to comment about it.
Enjoy!
Ana Paula Cortez
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De: Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@rocketmail.com>
Para: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2011 12:07
Assunto: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
Tony
And I think :
Reading predisposes to TRANSFORMATION while "reading" predisposes to MUTILATION !
Haydi
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From: Tony Whitson <twhitson@UDel.Edu>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 6:42:01
Subject: RE: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Julian Williams wrote:
Andy
2. Peter works with the distinction between learning and 'learning'
etc, ,,,
the majority learn to read, but read like robots. ...
Julian
I think we need to distinguish between reading and 'reading'
I would look to Freire for this.
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