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RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
Mike,
"Steven J. Gould", "non-linear dynamic systems" and "emergent process" will be excellent terms to search since now, for me. I will almost can not sleep this night. :-) Ow, "textual analysis", after Anton suggestion, is really at the schedule too... In time, what do you all (Mike, Anton, Larry, Andy, Ulvi, Bella...) suggest to me , if I want to learn something about a vygotskian methodology for textual analysis? By any way, my happiness would be to work with texts and discourse (wrote by Vygotsky or not) just as semiotic "non-linear dynamic systems", its genesis as "heterocronic" genetic process, and its meanings and senses as "emergent process"... I don't know if this is really possible, or collectively desirable, and how many nights without sleep this will coast until I die. I was only looking for a Shif's text about cientific concept formations, never will imagine changing subject to the process of formation a social discursive "tradition" in international psychology... Much more interesting, and much more laborious at the same time. :-|
Achilles (or the turtle).
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:20:34 -0800
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> From: lchcmike@gmail.com
> To: ablunden@mira.net; xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> CC:
>
> Andy & Larry-- there is a paper by McDermott and Dore from a while back on
> conversation as "collusion." Hmmm. Sounds less friendly than collaboration,
> but, then, collaboration has its shady meanings too.
>
> Achilles. I first encountered the term, heterochrony, in the work of the
> evolutionary biologist, Steven J. Gould. When we combine heterochrony and
> synchronic heterogeneity, i believe that non-linear dynamic systems are
> perhaps a ubiquitous outcome of the emergent process.
>
> mike
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
> > Larry, the concept which I think transcends conversation or dialogue is
> > *collaboration*. This is a term that has been coming up in the Zeitgeist for
> > some time now, from many different directions. Its importance is this: it is
> > one thing to have a conversation with someone over there on the other side
> > of the fence, but until you work together on a shared project, you are just
> > sharing words, you do not really share a concept. It's like the difference
> > between an acquaintance and a friend. Conversations are informative, but
> > they can be based on nothing. You need a joint project to collaborate on.
> >
> > There is always tradition, by this or some other name (Gadamar for
> > "tradition"), the point is that traditions are made up not just of words but
> > of activities (the context of the word). So to innovate in a tradition, you
> > need to create new activities, i.e., collaborative projects.
> >
> > That's how I see it. What do you think, Larry?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > Larry Purss wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Achilles
> >> Your questions are fascinating as an inquiry of the constructs or
> >> heuristic processes of emerging "traditions" "schools of thought"
> >> "paradigms" "Discourses" as cultural patterns which we articulate and
> >> INHABIT.
> >> When you mention Freud, the extensive literature that has developed
> >> exploring the formation of a "tradition" of psychoanalysis as a sociological
> >> and cultural "way of knowing" is informative of epistemological ways of
> >> creating knowledge. How different versions of the "truth"are contested and
> >> "true believers" who are arguing for a specific version (as "dogma") make
> >> validity claims of CERTAINTY for their "true" version (as they believe
> >> Freud saw the world) is a process of narrative construction worth studying
> >> in its own right. In fact the sociology of knowledge is a "tradition which
> >> does just that. In exploring Vygotsky's contribution to a new emerging
> >> "perspective" or vantage point from which to "see" human "nature" the same
> >> processes are at PLAY. The metaphor that best captures the DYNAMIC PROCESS
> >> at play in the creation or construction of "traditions" seems to be the
> >> metaphor of CONVERSATION (as the process of sharing particular perspectives
> >> not to confirm your particular perspective but as a conscious process that a
> >> THIRD perspective that is NOVEL and emerges within the open space of the
> >> conversation is constructed and each participants version (which is held
> >> tentatively as a FALLIBLE perspective) is enlarged as each conversant's
> >> "horizon of understanding" is expanded. The part that I'm curious about (in
> >> my ZPD) is how to create social structures where this fallible position can
> >> be nurtured and the vitality of conversation as creating THIRDNESS replaces
> >> the need for "traditions" as locations of dogma as "truth".
> >> It is this SENSIBILITY towards "knowing" within the CHAT collective (in
> >> contrast to SENSE) that I appreciate so much as a place which invites an
> >> open space to generate THIRDNESS. ( I apologize if I'm using this term in a
> >> way that muddles other conceptions of thirdness such as Peirce) "Thirdness"
> >> as a spirit of inquiry does capture the spirit of NOVELTY created in
> >> communities of inquiry.
> >> It also helps to explain when thirdness collapses into CERTAINTY and
> >> scholars such as Freud or Vygotsky get locked into dogmatic traditions. The
> >> question to be answered is how do we keep "traditions" open to novelty in a
> >> spirit of thirdness.
> >> Larry
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Bella Kotik-Friedgut <bella.kotik@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:03 am
> >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> >> To: lchcmike@gmail.com, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <
> >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>
> >> As a student I took part in Leontjev's course on geleral psychology and
> >>> the
> >>> his distancing was not obvious (at least for us as students because one
> >>> of
> >>> the compulsory tasks was to read " Thinking and Speech" and to be
> >>> examined
> >>> fully on one book as well as another task to read Leontjev;s "Problems of
> >>> development of mind") As for the tradition: Luria's "Basics of
> >>> Neuropsychology" is based on Vygotsky's ideas quite explicitly. Is this
> >>> an
> >>> expression of cultural-historical tradition?
> >>>
> >>> Bella Kotik
> >>> .
> >>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 5:57 AM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Achilles. I think we have lived to witness exactly "non-liner
> >>>>
> >>> genetic> course
> >>>
> >>>> or history." For many complex reasons Vygotsky "missed"
> >>>>
> >>> the dominant trend
> >>>
> >>>> of his times, behaviorism/psychoanalysis" in a way that
> >>>>
> >>> anticipated the
> >>>
> >>>> turn
> >>>> away from Piaget (who did not become "mainstream" in USA until late
> >>>> 1950's-60's) and banishment of Freud from mainstream
> >>>>
> >>> psychology to cultural
> >>>
> >>>> studies circles and, in watered down fashion, human potential
> >>>>
> >>> movements) so
> >>>
> >>>> that when
> >>>> Toulmin wrote about "The mozart of psychology" his clearly
> >>>>
> >>> idiocyncratic> interpretation fell like a match into a pool of gasoline
> >>> (that looked for
> >>>
> >>>> all the world like a pool of water). The "Vygotsky
> >>>> explosion" that many, such as Laszlo Garai in Hungary have
> >>>>
> >>> written about,
> >>>
> >>>> and that so irritate many, was the result.
> >>>>
> >>>> Its really a fascinating process to have lived through,
> >>>>
> >>> contributed to,
> >>>
> >>>> been guilty of, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> And look at one of its consequences. We chatter across the
> >>>>
> >>> globe as easily,
> >>>
> >>>> or more easily, than we get a loaf of bread...... while others
> >>>>
> >>> starve.>
> >>>
> >>>> Non linear for sure.
> >>>> mike
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Achilles Delari Junior <
> >>>> achilles_delari@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not historicist, but I can remember something from
> >>>>>
> >>>> Benjamin about
> >>>
> >>>> "tradition" x "conservationism" ... That tradition is not always
> >>>>> conservative nor authoritarian, there are democratic, dialogical,
> >>>>> revolutionary traditions too... I guess - in addition - that
> >>>>>
> >>>> perhaps> > something like a "cultural tradition" (any cultural
> >>> tradition, in diverse
> >>>
> >>>> fields of society collective actions) can have a non-liner
> >>>>>
> >>>> genetic course
> >>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>>> history... I dont know if this is terminologically possible
> >>>>>
> >>>> or adequate.
> >>>
> >>>> But
> >>>>
> >>>>> a psychological theory, and/or approach, and/or
> >>>>>
> >>>> "perspective" (has some
> >>>
> >>>> people tell here in Brazil: "historical-cultural
> >>>>>
> >>>> perspective") - can not
> >>>
> >>>> be
> >>>>
> >>>>> like a dogmatic religious tradition (despite I have any
> >>>>>
> >>>> doubts if even
> >>>
> >>>> religions can be strictly dogmatic all the time without any
> >>>>>
> >>>> secular> > influences and changes to dialog with broader cultural
> >>> contexts, etc.).
> >>>
> >>>> In
> >>>>
> >>>>> this sense neither behaviorism or psychoanalysis could be
> >>>>>
> >>>> understood as
> >>>
> >>>> an
> >>>>
> >>>>> strict "tradition" (there was fights and ruptures all the time,
> >>>>>
> >>>> dissidences,
> >>>>
> >>>>> detours, new trends, and interpretations, etc.). Scientific
> >>>>>
> >>>> thought> > presupposes changes as a sine qua non condition of its own
> >>> existence...
> >>>
> >>>> Of
> >>>>
> >>>>> course, in the field of the Vygotsky's intelectual,
> >>>>>
> >>>> cultural, legacy
> >>>
> >>>> ("puzzle kind" legacy) the discontinuous, intermittent, sometimes
> >>>>>
> >>>> enigmatic,
> >>>>
> >>>>> character of the history of this "(non)tradition" it is very
> >>>>>
> >>>> eminent.> There
> >>>
> >>>> are several important intellectual disputes about the "correct
> >>>>> interpretation", the best exegetic tools, etc. But how can
> >>>>>
> >>>> we name this
> >>>
> >>>> historical process? Is there something in this that can have
> >>>>>
> >>>> the same
> >>>
> >>>> name?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Every new name means an actual paradigmatic rupture? A name
> >>>>>
> >>>> never can be
> >>>
> >>>> only one meaning, of course. The sample of the name of the
> >>>>>
> >>>> Journal is
> >>>
> >>>> really
> >>>>
> >>>>> worthwhile - a kind of "family name" (as "complex" in
> >>>>>
> >>>> thought and
> >>>
> >>>> language
> >>>>
> >>>>> relations). People sometimes use names, words, has sign of some
> >>>>>
> >>>> collective
> >>>>
> >>>>> identity, to be included in a broader common troupe of
> >>>>>
> >>>> social actors...
> >>>
> >>>> this
> >>>>
> >>>>> is far to be something harmonious or ideally synergistic,
> >>>>>
> >>>> but exist some
> >>>
> >>>> need to stay in touch with persons that have some common
> >>>>>
> >>>> interests,> mainly
> >>>
> >>>> common values, as Mike said. If this can be named a
> >>>>>
> >>>> tradition, now I
> >>>
> >>>> already
> >>>>
> >>>>> don't if is the more important question.
> >>>>> Achilles.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:26:30 -0800
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> >>>>>> From: lchcmike@gmail.com
> >>>>>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps we can get the shif book translated if it is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> interesting. Does
> >>>
> >>>> it
> >>>>
> >>>>> exist in Russian, Anton?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I disagree with only one part of what you say about
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> "cultural-historical"
> >>>>
> >>>>> school never existing. In the period from about 1956
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> following Stalin's
> >>>
> >>>> death, to the death of Luria and Leontiev, there was an
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> identifiable> > group
> >>>
> >>>> of people who met together, talked together, shared
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> certain ideas and
> >>>
> >>>> values. They were also quite influential as heads of some
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> departments> and
> >>>
> >>>> institutes. They did not all agree with each other
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> (Achille's evocation
> >>>
> >>>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> family strikes me as about right) and Leontiev was both
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> feared and
> >>>
> >>>> distanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> from the others, but they maintained a kind of uneasy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> alliance. Here I
> >>>
> >>>> would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> include
> >>>>>> Luria, Zaporzhets, Elkonin, Slavina, Morozova, and perhaps
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> a few
> >>>
> >>>> others.
> >>>>
> >>>>> It is a great irony that NOW there is a journal of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> cultural-historical
> >>>
> >>>> psychology in Russia. But perhaps, not a bad thing.
> >>>>>> mike (socio-cultural-historical activity scholar) :-))
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Achilles Delari Junior <
> >>>>>> achilles_delari@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I really understand... Maybe we can say that Vygotsky
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> himself was
> >>>
> >>>> notever
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> following his own "project"... In some documents
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> (letters) he
> >>>
> >>>> expresshis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> desire to dedicate to an species of "cause", the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> "reconstruction of
> >>>
> >>>> allpsychological science, building an unified approach,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> but I really
> >>>
> >>>> feel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> that therewas no "tradition" stricto sensu, nor no "vigotskian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> school"
> >>>>
> >>>>> in a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> very definitefashion... Even more to read Vygotsky is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> hard exegetical
> >>>
> >>>> task,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> his all workseems to be a kind of complex million pieces
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> puzzle, at
> >>>
> >>>> least
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> for us non Russianreaders... I dont know... But when
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> everybody lies,
> >>>
> >>>> we
> >>>>
> >>>>> need
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> to think aboutmethodological tools to define if there is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> a possible
> >>>
> >>>> differentiation betweenlies and truth, or we can be
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> satisfied with
> >>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>> impossibility of any truth inany social discourse... In
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> capitalists> > liberal
> >>>
> >>>> regimes, people can tell some liesin order to satisfy
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> editorial needs
> >>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> market demands too... financial researchfounds to their(our)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> projects,
> >>>>
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> so on. Then, nobody is without guilt... inthis great
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> social game for
> >>>
> >>>> personal success in unequal power relationships, between
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> nations,> > between
> >>>
> >>>> institutions, between groups, persons, or evenbetween
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> brothers at the
> >>>
> >>>> same
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> home...
> >>>>>>> :-(
> >>>>>>> Best wishes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:35:51 -0800
> >>>>>>>> From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> >>>>>>>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Same thing. No answer. Special research needed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Everybody lies.
> >>>
> >>>> From
> >>>>
> >>>>> 1930s -- onwards.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, note: "Cultural-historical tradition" sensu
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Vygotsky never
> >>>
> >>>> existed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And hardly exists today.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>>> From: Achilles Delari Junior
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>> > > > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>
> >>>> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:59:24 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anton,
> >>>>>>>> This sounds much better! :-)Thank you very much. And
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> about this
> >>>
> >>>> title?Психология глухих. (Под ред. И.М. Соловьева, Ж.И.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Шиф, Т.В.
> >>>
> >>>> Розановой
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> и Н.В. Яшковой), М., 1971.Not already from the 1930s...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> What you
> >>>
> >>>> recommends?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I found an recent Russian publication from 2006,{
> >>>>>>> http://bookseller.ru/book.php?n=1454} but I did not feel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> secure to
> >>>
> >>>> order
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> in my blind condition tounderstand the book importance
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> or relation to
> >>>
> >>>> historical-cultural tradition...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:48:14 -0800
> >>>>>>>>> From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> English?> > > > > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>
> >>>> RE: Its important to know that it is not near to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Vygotsky's> trends.
> >>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I never said so. I guess I meant to state that the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> connection is
> >>>
> >>>> not
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> obvious and requires substantial textual analysis.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Especially so,
> >>>
> >>>> given
> >>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> deliberately cryptic style of writing in Soviet
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Psychology from the
> >>>
> >>>> 1930s
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> onwards...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Achilles Delari Junior
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>> > > > > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>
> >>>> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:12:00 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> English?> > > > > >
> >>>
> >>>> I understand.Thank you very much.I saw that there is
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> something> from
> >>>
> >>>> her
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> about deaf psychology, for instance, etc.Its important
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> to know that
> >>>
> >>>> it
> >>>>
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> not near to Vygotsky's trends.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:10:21 -0800
> >>>>>>>>>> From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> English?> > > > > > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>
> >>>> I personally strongly doubt any translation of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> this book ever
> >>>
> >>>> existed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Good luck anyway!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -- However, there is other stuff by Shif available
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> in English,
> >>>
> >>>> but it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> is hardly related to her Leningrad work and represent
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> her later
> >>>
> >>>> Moscow
> >>>>
> >>>>> work
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> in defectology...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Achilles Delari Junior
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>> > > > > > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>
> >>>> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 2:37:26 AM
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi XMCA
> >>>>>>>>>> people…
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In order to
> >>>>>>>>>> help another friend of mine, biologist, studying
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> scientific> > concepts
> >>>
> >>>> development, I’m wonder if you have any notice
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> about English
> >>>
> >>>> (Spanish, French,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> etc.) publication from the following text:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Shif, J. I. “Razvitie nauchnykh ponyatii u schko’nika:
> >>>>>>>>>> Issledovanie k voprosu umstvenogo razvitiya
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> shkol’nika pri
> >>>
> >>>> obuchenii
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> obshchestvovedeniyu” [The development of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> scientific concepts in
> >>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> school
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> child: The investigation of intellectual
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> development of the
> >>>
> >>>> school
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> child in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> social science instruction]. Moscow – Leningrad:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gosudarstvennoe
> >>>>
> >>>>> Uchebno-Pedagicheskoe Izdatel’stvo. 1935.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I’m trying
> >>>>>>>>>> the Russian high now, but we are not so prepared
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to actually
> >>>
> >>>> translate Russian so
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> soon, without a huge time spending… And there are
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> many other
> >>>
> >>>> Russian
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> needs
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> prior at the schedule, most of that already
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> provide thanks you
> >>>
> >>>> all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If you have any notice... :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>>>>>> very much. Good 2010 for all.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>> wishes.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Achilles.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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