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Re: [xmca] Educational neuroscience



On 24 July 2013 15:38, Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Larry,
>
> Please say more... I think this is so important, and things point out
> that Vygotsky also, otherwise why enter the Medicine course in 1930
> (if my memory is not wrong)
>
> Wagner
>

"On Psychological Systems", collected works of LSV, v.3, p.105

"In actual fact, it seems to me that by introducing the concept of
psychological system in the form we discussed, we get a splendid
possibility of conceiving the real connections, the real complex
relationships that exist."

"To a certain degree this also holds true for one of the most difficult
problems -- the localization of higher psychological systems."

Huw


>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ulvi,
> >
> > You mentioned you are interested in *cognitive CHANGE*.
> >
> > Within the concept  *neuroplasticity* is implicit Nero change.
> >
> > There is a scholar in France [Catherine Malabou] whose central conceptual
> > thesis explores *plasticity* as from the Greek *to mold  or to model.*
> > She moves the concepts of *dynamic* and *systems* and *theory* and
> *neural*
> > within the orbit of the central thesis of plasticity as change,
> > transformation and metamorphosis.
> >
> > Not sure if this is too far off topic.
> >
> > I also want to mention *neo-Piagetian* theory including Vygotsky and
> > Wittgenstein is being explored at SIMON Fraser University.
> > If interested I could say more.
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Andy and all, I found Kurt Fisher, he is at Harvard, Mind, Brain
> and
> >> Education.
> >>
> >> He is described as:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Piagetian_theories_of_cognitive_development
> >>
> >> Fischer's theory differs from the other neo-Piagetian theories in a
> number
> >> of respects. One of them is in the way it explains cognitive change.
> >> Specifically, although Fischer does not deny the operation of
> information
> >> processing constrains on development, he emphasizes on the environmental
> >> and social rather than individual factors as causes of development. To
> >> explain developmental change he borrowed two classic notions from Lev
> >> Vygotsky,[12]<
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Piagetian_theories_of_cognitive_development#cite_note-12
> >> >that
> >> is, internalization and the zone of proximal development.
> >>
> >> I am rather interested in the application of the new findings in the
> field
> >> of educational neuroscience into the theory and practice of education.
> >>
> >> Ulvi
> >>
> >> 2013/7/23 Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> >>
> >> > Ulvi, best of luck in your search, and maybe someone on this list can
> >> > help. But don't get your hopes up.
> >> > Lawrence Barsalou is a very sophisticated writer on neuroscience, but
> in:
> >> >
> >> > Barsalou, L. W. (1992) “Cognitive Psychology. An Overview for
> Cognitive
> >> > Scientists,” Hillsdale NJ: Lawrence Earlbaum.
> >> >
> >> > where he has a chapter on education, he characterises education as:
> >> > “teachers provide information that students incorporate into existing
> >> > knowledge” - in other words, not only does he use "folk psychology" in
> >> his
> >> > grasp of the subtlties of education, but he seems to be unaware that
> this
> >> > antiquated "theory" of teaching and learning has been subject to any
> >> > critique over the past 100 years. A classic illustration of the
> problem
> >> > that Greg has been raising.
> >> >
> >> > Andy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ulvi İçil wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to know some outstanding scholar names in the field of
> >> >> educational neuroscience, working in the line of sociocultural
> theory.
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >> Ulvi
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> >> > ------------
> >> > *Andy Blunden*
> >> > Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/
> >> > Book: http://www.brill.nl/concepts
> >> > http://marxists.academia.edu/**AndyBlunden<
> >> http://marxists.academia.edu/AndyBlunden>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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