Re: [xmca] "Rising to the concrete"

[Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>]

Huw

Where do you locate the *as if* structure of understanding?  Wolfgang Iser
proposes a literary anthropology model that posits the actual/real realm
AND the imaginal realm  MEDIATED by the fictional.  In this model the
distinctions or boundaries between the actual and the fictional are not
distinct and clear.

Larry



On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 17 August 2012 19:03, Ivan Rosero <irosero@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > In the interest of understanding you Huw, these two lines in your most
> > recent post jumped out at me
> >
> > To assert that something is not relevant is to prevent such creative
> > thinking...
> >
> >
> >
> > Going back to the other contention, your assertion that analog and
> > digital belong to a different frame is wrong.  The only possible truth of
> > the assertion is that they have nothing to do with your frame...
> >
> >
> > The following lines also struck me
> >
> > To abstract is to measure.  To measure is to compare.  Comparison is
> > digital.
> >
> > These assertions create a pretty big universe of seemingly irrelevant
> > things to thinking about abstraction and comparison.  I wonder, for
> > example, if abstraction can be about something other than measuring?
>  And,
> > would the following sentence count as comparison?
> >
> > "A dog is kind of like a sheep."
> >
>
> Yes, it can count as comparison.
>
>
> >
> > If yes, is this a "digital" comparison?  If no, what is this sentence in
> > your estimation?
> >
>
> Yes.   For the dog to be conceived of as like a sheep, you are comparing a
> model of a dog with a model of a sheep.
>
> Likewise the only means of comparing the two living things is by various
> measurements.  To say that one is like another is to compare conceptions
> made from aggregated abstractions.
>
> But you could say "My dog is a sheep", which is not such a comparison.
>
> I do not like writing that someone is wrong, but then I do not like
> obfuscation even more.  If you think it's out of place, please forgive the
> harshness.
>
> Huw
>
>
>
> >
> > ivan
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