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Re: [xmca] "Rising to the concrete"

http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/ap81v3n2.PDF p.16
Mike, I also, at first had the same problem with motorscooter indicator, and I used a different but similar tactic to overcome it. Also, as a civil engineer I learnt that it was essential to imagine yourself as the building in order to nknow where the stresses would be and effectively design it, and most difficult problems, up to the point of calculations could be solved this way.
But ... :) ... I can't see what this has to do with abstract and concrete. Can you explain? 
Andy

mike cole wrote:
A wonderful paper by Yutaka Sayeki (with two key figures reversed, but it is obvious where the mistake was made when you read it) has an example of what I take to be almost a "measure" of rising to the concrete (see also Davydov's ideas on the topic).
Its part of a special issue of the newsletter. Accessible to anyone at lchc.ucsd.edu <http://lchc.ucsd.edu> 

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Volume 3, Number 2 April 1981

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AZUMA, Hiroshi: /A Note on Cross-Cultural Study/

INAGAKI, Kayoko: /Facilitation of Knowledge Integration through /

/Classroom Discussion/

KASHIWAGI, Keiko: /Note on the Socialization Processes in Japan/

HATANO, Giyoo, KUHARA, Keiko, and AKIYAMA, Michael: /Kanji Help /

/Readers of Japanese Infer the Meaning of Unfamiliar Words/

SAITO, Hirofumi/: Toward Comparative Studies in Reading Kanji and /

/Kana/

SAYEKI, Yutaka: /"Body Analogy" and the Cognition of Rotated Figures/
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com <mailto:huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>> wrote: 

    On 15 August 2012 13:01, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:

    > Well, these issues are not going to be solved in 5 minutes, Huw.
    Analog
    > and digital belong to a completely different frame than the
    concepts of
    > abstract/concrete and general/universal which I think Greg asked
    about
    > initially.
    >

    Analog was an elaboration.  This point is not necessary to resolve
    "universal" in the Lenin quote.

    Huw


    >
    > Let me be brief then. Ilyenkov famously makes the point that
    (exchange)
    > value is an ideal, but it is also real. The market implements a
    process of
    > abstracting the value of commodities but it is the very
    concreteness of the
    > market which makes that process possible.

    Democracy is an ideal which really motivates millions of people and
    > underpins constitutional governments.
    >

    > Universal suffrage allows that insane people, criminals and
    children do
    > not vote. And what is more, when the President is elected, only
    the votes
    > of 51% count. (There are of course plenty of "Ah, but ..."s
    about this, but
    > this is what is meant by the difference between the general and the
    > universal.)
    >
    > http://www.marxists.org/**reference/archive/hegel/works/**
    >
    sl/slsubjec.htm#SL163n1b<http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/sl/slsubjec.htm#SL163n1b>
    >
    > Andy
    >
    >
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