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Re: [xmca] schools-without-computers-by-choice-and-conviction-that-they-dont-help-kids
why does the discussion of constructivism jump us to programming (Papert, aside for the moment).
there are some terrific possibilities in significantly more playful spaces, e.g., Minecraft and Arduinos:
Minecraft goes from a sort of virtual Lego buiding experience
... to logic gates and advanced construction of working machines.
Arduinos involves very simple programming as well, but it is a more tangible interface, literally:
anyone going to Minecon in Vegas?
On Oct 26, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>> I would be very interested to hear about various people's encounters with
>> Scratch. Its a terrifically interesting enterprise that xmca o philes
>> a variety of equally interesting
>> opinions about.
> Scratch uses smalltalk. I found this page interesting:
> I've had a quick look at Scratch. It looks like a GUI language for
> animating 'sprites'. Looks fun.
> I'm familiar with Alan Kay's Squeakland. I think the entry time (entry
> level) is more significant with Squeakland -- the interface is more
> abstract. Though this also gives much more depth of expression and
> The Squeakland depth seems like a good intermediary between Scratch and
> vanilla smalltalk. I suspect kids would struggle to get beyond the
> immediate limits of Scratch. Is there a meta-scratch too for adding their
> own functions? Though perhaps the idea is that when they know what a
> function they expand into other programming languages?
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Bill Kerr <email@example.com> wrote:
>>> The constructionist use of computers in schools as developed by Seymour
>>> Papert and allies is still a fruitful one. The modern incarnation of the
>>> software is scratch from MIT http://scratch.mit.edu/ but it remains true
>>> that to understand its educational philosophy fully you need to read some
>>> books. One idea is "hard play". Another is "low entry, high ceiling".
>>> was modified a little in scratch to "low floor, wide walls".
>>> Moreover, the one laptop per child (OLPC) as developed by Negroponte and
>>> allies remains a worthwhile experiment to kick start learning for third
>>> world children.
>>> Peter, all the link shows is that mediocre use of computers leads to
>>> mediocre results.
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Peter Smagorinsky <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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