Re: [xmca] Progress Pubishers

From: Mike Cole <lchcmike who-is-at>
Date: Sat Dec 01 2007 - 10:48:57 PST

Great, Yordanka, we can post the outcome of her work on xmca discussion
Remember, at home page there is a way go google just lchc,
including xmca. There have been
discussions of perezhivanie in the past and one interesting question is what
has been gained and what has been
left out that "we" once knew at an earlier time but have collecitvely

On Dec 1, 2007 10:40 AM, <> wrote:

> Mike,
> My research assistant (intern) Katharina Gerarts will summarise the posted
> comments and ideas from the discussion. She is a German speaker.
> Yordanka
> _____
> From: on behalf of Mike Cole
> Sent: Sat 01/12/2007 17:45
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Progress Pubishers
> Do you really think that is a one correct translation, Bella?
> LSV uses the term, perezhivanie and we have seen how polysemiic that word
> is
> in Russian, never mind in translation/
> In the psych literature, I sort of prefer definitions of perezhivanie
> that
> translate roughly
> as "intensely emotional experience" or "intense lived through experience."
> The Russian-American
> differences in the "cognition/emotion" relationship I think interfere in
> this regard.
> So, Russian style, I might say that my wife and I "perezhil" the Cuban
> missile crises while post docs
> in Moscow, or we "perezhil" the 111 avtobus from the National hotel to MGU
> main campus. Both experiences
> were intense, were topics of later discussion, etc. The idea of
> translating
> "peak experience" as "peak perezhivanie"
> seems to work only in so far as the intensity of emotion aspect is
> highlighted. Usually in my experience, "peak" is
> used to refer to the positive end of the emotional expression.
> Might someone get a grad student to pull together all the discussions of
> perezhivanie at XMCA and reflect back to
> us what we have collectively muddled around to?
> mike
> On Dec 1, 2007 9:10 AM, bella kotik <> wrote:
> > As perhaps some of you know, Vygotsky's family is preparing for
> > publication
> > a 15 volume collection of his works which will include the archive
> > documents. Then the really correct new translation would be needed.
> > Bella Kotik-friedgut
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