Re: [xmca] on self and identity - a request

From: Aachey Susan Jurow <Susan.Jurow who-is-at>
Date: Sun Nov 25 2007 - 14:04:29 PST

Thanks Mike.


Susan Jurow
Assistant Professor
School of Education
University of Colorado at Boulder

(office) 303 492 6557
(fax) 303 492 7090

---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:31:27 -0800
>From: "Mike Cole" <>
>Subject: Re: [xmca] on self and identity - a request
>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <>
>Hi Susan-- Thanks for helping me to understand how to connect Cain's
>statement to social epistemology.
>Serendipitously, I am reading a paper by Jenson, de Castell, & Bryson
>entitled "Girl Talk": Gender, equity, and identity discourses in a
>school-based computer culture" It can be found at
>I think this paper may be directly helpful. It is about an intervention
>study exploring the ways in which gender is discursively constructed in
>order to
>create conditions for discursive re-negotiating gender roles. This is not
>your explicit topic, but the paper has several examples that may be of
>in addition to its overall perspective.
>I hope Martin comes in out of the cold, as Tony suggested, in order to help
>us along with this discussion.
>I am remembering that a little while back we were focused on the historical
>particularity of concerns with identity
>in relationship to the idea of personality as used in the Russian CHAT
>tradition. In coming to know better more
>recent, Anglophone, work on identity which (again my memory may be deceiving
>me!) does not employ the term
>personality as a key conceptual tool, I personally hope we do not lose that
>earlier set of questions.
>On Nov 25, 2007 1:17 PM, Aachey Susan Jurow <>
>> I've been reading the last few exchanges on Lave & Wenger and Wenger with
>> great interest. Mike's comment on how Cain's statement about the way "a
>> person understands and views himself" and how this fits with the
>> epistemological position that L&W put forth made me think of the puzzle that
>> I'm facing in a project on school leaders' experiences in a "Courage to
>> Lead" retreat series. Briefly, the Courage to Lead retreats are inspired by
>> the work of Parker Palmer (the author of the book "The courage to teach" and
>> many others that are pretty popular) and are designed to help educators
>> reconnect with their sense of true self.
>> In an attempt to avoid getting caught in the debate about whether there is
>> such a thing as a true self or whether the self is completely a constructed
>> notion, I'm looking at the discursive resources that are made available
>> during the retreats (talk, activities, artifacts) for talking about (and
>> possibly experiencing?) an inner self. (This is one way that I read Cain
>> fitting with L&W's social epistemology.) This is a lot of background -- my
>> question is this:
>> Does anyone know of ethnographic studies of the construction of/experience
>> of self that might help me understand how talk (in particular) mediates a
>> particular view of an inner self?
>> Thanks for your help with this.
>> Susan
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>> Susan Jurow
>> Assistant Professor
>> School of Education
>> University of Colorado at Boulder
>> (office) 303 492 6557
>> (fax) 303 492 7090
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