Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list

Dear Mike, et al,

If you still have WebBoard Mike, there are affordances in WebBoard for
it to be visited, like a blog, and for pics/files, etc. to be posted
there. At the same time you can generally subscribe to a WebBoard Topic
as e-mail and even respond to it via e-mail. Just a thought.

In Peace,
K.

Mike Cole wrote:
> I expect you are not alone, Mark. I am certainly all wet most of the
> time
> and try to sponge up everything I can.
>
> One thing you CAN do. Ask questions. Repeat what somene has said
> and ask what it means, why it is important. We all learn as a result.
>
> One other thought for those who wish to read but not get their message
> in email.
> Put xmca in your span filter. then read it at xmca in the threaded
> discussion when
> you wish.
>
> And, if we have a blog in our future, volunteer to help run it!
> mike
>
> On 6/21/07, Mark Chen <markchen@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm one of those who voted on the article but proceeded not to
>> comment. :)
>> My main problem is that most of the discussion on this list is way
>> over my
>> head so I am attempting to just soak it all in like a dry
>> sponge...only I'm
>> more like a wet sponge that needs to continually be squeezed so that
>> I can
>> soak up more, but the squeezed out water just ends up back in the
>> bucket,
>> and I've probably killed the analogy...
>>
>> Anyway, a blog would be quite nice, but I don't think things have to be
>> either-or. Isn't there some sort of app out there that is a blog that
>> emails people? Or maybe the posts on here can automatically be fed
>> into a
>> blog... Perhaps what we really want is a threaded discussion board that
>> emails people...
>>
>> In the meantime, I'll continue to just soak as much as possible while
>> trying
>> not to suck.
>>
>> mark
>>
>> On 6/21/07, Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi All--
>> >
>> > Replying to this message provides an apt opportunity to discuss a few
>> > central
>> > issues in the continued operation of XMCA.
>> >
>> > The changeover for signing in was quite painful, but seems to have
>> been
>> > accomplished
>> > just fine. Now if you go to
>> http://lchc/cgi-bin/xmca/subscriber_list.phpyou
>> > will see that members can log in and fill out a little info
>> themselves.
>> > Unsubscribing can be done here
>> > as well without bothering the members at large.
>> >
>> > I understand the enthusiasm of some for a blog. At least for the
>> present I
>> > am not
>> > enthusiastic about this idea. There are several reasons.
>> >
>> > 1. It would require creating a new support infrastructure.
>> > 2. Many web newbies are not going to be familiar with, or
>> comfortable with
>> > a
>> > blog.
>> > 3. The threaded discourse option at xmca offers a close equivalent
>> to a
>> > blog
>> > and is
>> > in place.
>> > 4. Many of those who favor a blog have never made a single
>> contribution to
>> > the ongoing
>> > discussion at xmca, and many of those who do contribute are not
>> > enthusiastic about
>> > a blog.
>> >
>> > How to interpret #4? Is it that all the blog advocates would be
>> > contributing to xmca if it were a blog? I doubt that, but its
>> possible. Is
>> > it that older members of xmca, who do contribute to the discussion are
>> > less
>> > comfortable with blogs? This seems possible?
>> > In any event, if the blog enthusiasts would like to jump in and help
>> > create
>> > an xmca blog
>> > and try it out, we here at ucsd would be glad to help by providing
>> > whatever
>> > info we can, but the volunteers would be responsible for keeping
>> track of
>> > posters, keeping up the archive,
>> > making it accessible, etc.
>> >
>> > Perhaps an interesting middle way to experiment would be to have
>> the
>> > upcoming, in the fall, XMCA course use a blog so people could try
>> it out.
>> > (The issue of this course will be
>> > dealt with in a separate message).
>> >
>> > Another issue related to posting. Somewhere near 100 people voted
>> for a
>> > discussion of the
>> > Shaffer and Clinton article. It is chock a block full of interesting,
>> > relevant ideas to this
>> > forum. VERY few people have taken the trouble to comment. Of
>> course, there
>> > can be
>> > all sorts of explanations. Summer has started, people are away, or
>> busy
>> > catching up, or
>> > or or or or....... But the fact remains that XMCA is a lousy spectator
>> > sport
>> > and learning,
>> > I believe we all believe, should be an active process.
>> >
>> > Why is it that we get a lot of activity discussing the medium, but
>> avoid
>> > engaging its content?
>> > I do not think that shifting to a blog would solve this problem, but
>> > perhaps. Meantime,
>> > what do you think of the idea of toolforthought? Do you believe that
>> > agency
>> > should be
>> > equally attributed to artifacts and people? Do you believe that new
>> > computational media
>> > reduce the necessity of learning how to subtract 105 from 204? Do you
>> > think
>> > that
>> > David and Katherine have reinvented Vygotsky's criticism of the
>> telephone
>> > operater
>> > mediated telephone network?
>> >
>> > What do you think about all of this?
>> > mike
>> >
>> > On 6/21/07, jmgdo@berkeley.edu <jmgdo@berkeley.edu> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Agreed. I love the blog idea. The "blogosphere" as its called (I
>> am a
>> > > particularly blog-loving member and participant) offers a wonderful
>> > shared
>> > > space for community building. And its definitely the emerging
>> media of
>> > > "collaborative environment".
>> > >
>> > > My only practical concern is that every person who "posts"
>> (rather than
>> > > comments) must be invited into the blog as a contributor.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > My 2 cents. Frankly, Email or 'listserv' is not a collaboration
>> > > > environment. Collaboration needs a 'shared' environment... email
>> > > > 'listsrve'
>> > > > is simply crises-cross way of incomplete communication method
>> - not
>> > > > collaboration. New way of collaborating environments, say
>> blogs, are
>> > > > efficient and easier to extract 'knowledge' from the gathered
>> > 'content'.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Blog platforms, you have an option to subscribe/post new
>> content
>> > via
>> > > > Email or RSS based on their own frequency - real-time, once a
>> day or
>> > > > whatever and those who do not want to be interrupted with
>> emails...
>> > can
>> > > > visit blogs on their own time and contribute. Things in the
>> world are
>> > > > changing at an alarming rate that means we need to get on to
>> new way
>> > of
>> > > > collaboration starting 'yesterday' and not 'tomorrow',
>> especially the
>> > > > academia - the teaching community. Perhaps you may have seen
>> this clip
>> > > at
>> > > > the YouTube but here are some facts..
>> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wE6yFYgP8
>> > > >
>> > > > Enjoy...
>> > > > ---
>> > > > Naeem Hashmi
>> > > > Chief Research Officer
>> > > > Information Frameworks
>> > > > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
>> > > > W: http://infoframeworks.com
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Peter Smagorinsky" <smago@uga.edu>
>> > > > To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:17 PM
>> > > > Subject: RE: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> add my vote for a regular old listserv. No way I'd do this if it
>> > meant
>> > > >> keeping up with a blog. p
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Peter Smagorinsky
>> > > >> The University of Georgia
>> > > >> Department of Language and Literacy Education
>> > > >> 125 Aderhold Hall
>> > > >> Athens, GA 30602-7123
>> > > >> smago@uga.edu /fax:706-542-4509/phone:706-542-4507/
>> > > >> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
>> [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
>> > ]
>> > > >> On
>> > > >> Behalf Of Vera Steiner
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:07 PM
>> > > >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > > >> Subject: Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I agree with Carol. It is much simpler as most of us check e-mail
>> > > >> messages
>> > > >> once a day, Vera
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Carol Macdonald wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Carol Macdonald says:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I read the e-mails, whereas I might not migrate to a blog of
>> my own
>> > > >>> initiative when very busy.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On 19/06/07, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> I agree with Naeem on this. I think a blog would be a far
>> superior
>> > > >>>> platform; and that if we were starting now from scratch,
>> that is
>> > how
>> > > >>>> we'd
>> > > >>>> do it.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Naeem Hashmi wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > Agree with Diarmuid.. Interesting forum but instead of going
>> > back
>> > > >>>> to
>> > > >>>> 'old
>> > > >>>> > email" distribution method, perhaps best is use a 'blog'
>> forum.
>> > > >>>> Goal is
>> > > >>>> > achieved without constant 'emeil' interruptions...
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Naeem
>> > > >>>> > ---
>> > > >>>> > Naeem Hashmi
>> > > >>>> > Chief Research Officer
>> > > >>>> > Information Frameworks
>> > > >>>> > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
>> > > >>>> > W: http://infoframeworks.com
>> > > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diarmuid Fogarty"
>> > > >>>> > <diarmuid@madasafish.com>
>> > > >>>> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:21 PM
>> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Is there a Ph.D. in "science" Re: [xmca] Fwd:
>> New
>> > > >>>> > DegreeProgramsOxford
>> > > >>>> >
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>> of Washington
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