Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list

if it ain't broke..... my vote goes to keeping the listserv.
m.

On 6/21/07, Hallam,Teresa A <thallam@uakron.edu> wrote:
>
> Mike, I agree with Mark - I'm soaking it in, but I appreciate the
> responses I have received from my small participation and thanks for the
> encouragement to ask questions.
>
> As far as the issue of mail list versus blog is concerned, I vote for
> the current set up. I use blogs all the time on a variety of topics but
> it's the immediacy of the email that keeps the topic lively and direct.
> Do whatever works for you and your associates, and we'll all get along
> just fine, and thanks for keeping it going!
>
> Teresa Alberte Hallam
> thallam@uakron.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> On Behalf Of Mike Cole
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:23 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
>
> I expect you are not alone, Mark. I am certainly all wet most of the
> time and try to sponge up everything I can.
>
> One thing you CAN do. Ask questions. Repeat what somene has said
> and ask what it means, why it is important. We all learn as a result.
>
> One other thought for those who wish to read but not get their message
> in email.
> Put xmca in your span filter. then read it at xmca in the threaded
> discussion when you wish.
>
> And, if we have a blog in our future, volunteer to help run it!
> mike
>
> On 6/21/07, Mark Chen <markchen@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm one of those who voted on the article but proceeded not to
> > comment. :) My main problem is that most of the discussion on this
> > list is way over my head so I am attempting to just soak it all in
> > like a dry sponge...only I'm more like a wet sponge that needs to
> > continually be squeezed so that I can soak up more, but the squeezed
> > out water just ends up back in the bucket, and I've probably killed
> the analogy...
> >
> > Anyway, a blog would be quite nice, but I don't think things have to
> > be either-or. Isn't there some sort of app out there that is a blog
> > that emails people? Or maybe the posts on here can automatically be
> > fed into a blog... Perhaps what we really want is a threaded
> > discussion board that emails people...
> >
> > In the meantime, I'll continue to just soak as much as possible while
> > trying not to suck.
> >
> > mark
> >
> > On 6/21/07, Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All--
> > >
> > > Replying to this message provides an apt opportunity to discuss a
> > > few central issues in the continued operation of XMCA.
> > >
> > > The changeover for signing in was quite painful, but seems to have
> > > been accomplished just fine. Now if you go to
> > http://lchc/cgi-bin/xmca/subscriber_list.phpyou
> > > will see that members can log in and fill out a little info
> themselves.
> > > Unsubscribing can be done here
> > > as well without bothering the members at large.
> > >
> > > I understand the enthusiasm of some for a blog. At least for the
> > > present I am not enthusiastic about this idea. There are several
> > > reasons.
> > >
> > > 1. It would require creating a new support infrastructure.
> > > 2. Many web newbies are not going to be familiar with, or
> > > comfortable with a blog.
> > > 3. The threaded discourse option at xmca offers a close equivalent
> > > to a blog and is
> > > in place.
> > > 4. Many of those who favor a blog have never made a single
> > > contribution to the ongoing
> > > discussion at xmca, and many of those who do contribute are not
> > > enthusiastic about
> > > a blog.
> > >
> > > How to interpret #4? Is it that all the blog advocates would be
> > > contributing to xmca if it were a blog? I doubt that, but its
> > > possible. Is it that older members of xmca, who do contribute to the
>
> > > discussion are less comfortable with blogs? This seems possible?
> > > In any event, if the blog enthusiasts would like to jump in and help
>
> > > create an xmca blog and try it out, we here at ucsd would be glad to
>
> > > help by providing whatever info we can, but the volunteers would be
> > > responsible for keeping track of posters, keeping up the archive,
> > > making it accessible, etc.
> > >
> > > Perhaps an interesting middle way to experiment would be to have
> > > the upcoming, in the fall, XMCA course use a blog so people could
> try it out.
> > > (The issue of this course will be
> > > dealt with in a separate message).
> > >
> > > Another issue related to posting. Somewhere near 100 people voted
> > > for a discussion of the Shaffer and Clinton article. It is chock a
> > > block full of interesting, relevant ideas to this forum. VERY few
> > > people have taken the trouble to comment. Of course, there can be
> > > all sorts of explanations. Summer has started, people are away, or
> > > busy catching up, or or or or or....... But the fact remains that
> > > XMCA is a lousy spectator sport and learning, I believe we all
> > > believe, should be an active process.
> > >
> > > Why is it that we get a lot of activity discussing the medium, but
> > > avoid engaging its content?
> > > I do not think that shifting to a blog would solve this problem, but
>
> > > perhaps. Meantime, what do you think of the idea of toolforthought?
> > > Do you believe that agency should be equally attributed to artifacts
>
> > > and people? Do you believe that new computational media reduce the
> > > necessity of learning how to subtract 105 from 204? Do you think
> > > that David and Katherine have reinvented Vygotsky's criticism of the
>
> > > telephone operater mediated telephone network?
> > >
> > > What do you think about all of this?
> > > mike
> > >
> > > On 6/21/07, jmgdo@berkeley.edu <jmgdo@berkeley.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. I love the blog idea. The "blogosphere" as its called (I
> > > > am a particularly blog-loving member and participant) offers a
> > > > wonderful
> > > shared
> > > > space for community building. And its definitely the emerging
> > > > media of "collaborative environment".
> > > >
> > > > My only practical concern is that every person who "posts" (rather
>
> > > > than
> > > > comments) must be invited into the blog as a contributor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > My 2 cents. Frankly, Email or 'listserv' is not a collaboration
>
> > > > > environment. Collaboration needs a 'shared' environment...
> > > > > email 'listsrve'
> > > > > is simply crises-cross way of incomplete communication method -
>
> > > > > not collaboration. New way of collaborating environments, say
> > > > > blogs, are efficient and easier to extract 'knowledge' from the
> > > > > gathered
> > > 'content'.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Blog platforms, you have an option to subscribe/post new
> > > > > content
> > > via
> > > > > Email or RSS based on their own frequency - real-time, once a
> > > > > day or whatever and those who do not want to be interrupted
> with emails...
> > > can
> > > > > visit blogs on their own time and contribute. Things in the
> > > > > world are changing at an alarming rate that means we need to get
>
> > > > > on to new way
> > > of
> > > > > collaboration starting 'yesterday' and not 'tomorrow',
> > > > > especially the academia - the teaching community. Perhaps you
> > > > > may have seen this clip
> > > > at
> > > > > the YouTube but here are some facts..
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wE6yFYgP8
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy...
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Naeem Hashmi
> > > > > Chief Research Officer
> > > > > Information Frameworks
> > > > > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
> > > > > W: http://infoframeworks.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Peter Smagorinsky" <smago@uga.edu>
> > > > > To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:17 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> add my vote for a regular old listserv. No way I'd do this if
> > > > >> it
> > > meant
> > > > >> keeping up with a blog. p
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Peter Smagorinsky
> > > > >> The University of Georgia
> > > > >> Department of Language and Literacy Education
> > > > >> 125 Aderhold Hall
> > > > >> Athens, GA 30602-7123
> > > > >> smago@uga.edu /fax:706-542-4509/phone:706-542-4507/
> > > > >> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> > > > >> [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> > > ]
> > > > >> On
> > > > >> Behalf Of Vera Steiner
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:07 PM
> > > > >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I agree with Carol. It is much simpler as most of us check
> > > > >> e-mail messages once a day, Vera
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Carol Macdonald wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Carol Macdonald says:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I read the e-mails, whereas I might not migrate to a blog of
> > > > >>> my own initiative when very busy.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 19/06/07, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I agree with Naeem on this. I think a blog would be a far
> > > > >>>> superior platform; and that if we were starting now from
> > > > >>>> scratch, that is
> > > how
> > > > >>>> we'd
> > > > >>>> do it.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Naeem Hashmi wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > Agree with Diarmuid.. Interesting forum but instead of
> > > > >>>> > going
> > > back
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>> 'old
> > > > >>>> > email" distribution method, perhaps best is use a 'blog'
> forum.
> > > > >>>> Goal is
> > > > >>>> > achieved without constant 'emeil' interruptions...
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > Naeem
> > > > >>>> > ---
> > > > >>>> > Naeem Hashmi
> > > > >>>> > Chief Research Officer
> > > > >>>> > Information Frameworks
> > > > >>>> > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
> > > > >>>> > W: http://infoframeworks.com
> > > > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diarmuid Fogarty"
> > > > >>>> > <diarmuid@madasafish.com>
> > > > >>>> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> > > > >>>> > <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:21 PM
> > > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Is there a Ph.D. in "science" Re: [xmca] Fwd:
> > > > >>>> > New DegreeProgramsOxford
> > > > >>>> >
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