Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list

I expect you are not alone, Mark. I am certainly all wet most of the time
and try to sponge up everything I can.

One thing you CAN do. Ask questions. Repeat what somene has said
and ask what it means, why it is important. We all learn as a result.

One other thought for those who wish to read but not get their message in email.
Put xmca in your span filter. then read it at xmca in the threaded
discussion when
you wish.

And, if we have a blog in our future, volunteer to help run it!
mike

On 6/21/07, Mark Chen <markchen@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm one of those who voted on the article but proceeded not to comment. :)
> My main problem is that most of the discussion on this list is way over my
> head so I am attempting to just soak it all in like a dry sponge...only I'm
> more like a wet sponge that needs to continually be squeezed so that I can
> soak up more, but the squeezed out water just ends up back in the bucket,
> and I've probably killed the analogy...
>
> Anyway, a blog would be quite nice, but I don't think things have to be
> either-or. Isn't there some sort of app out there that is a blog that
> emails people? Or maybe the posts on here can automatically be fed into a
> blog... Perhaps what we really want is a threaded discussion board that
> emails people...
>
> In the meantime, I'll continue to just soak as much as possible while trying
> not to suck.
>
> mark
>
> On 6/21/07, Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All--
> >
> > Replying to this message provides an apt opportunity to discuss a few
> > central
> > issues in the continued operation of XMCA.
> >
> > The changeover for signing in was quite painful, but seems to have been
> > accomplished
> > just fine. Now if you go to
> http://lchc/cgi-bin/xmca/subscriber_list.phpyou
> > will see that members can log in and fill out a little info themselves.
> > Unsubscribing can be done here
> > as well without bothering the members at large.
> >
> > I understand the enthusiasm of some for a blog. At least for the present I
> > am not
> > enthusiastic about this idea. There are several reasons.
> >
> > 1. It would require creating a new support infrastructure.
> > 2. Many web newbies are not going to be familiar with, or comfortable with
> > a
> > blog.
> > 3. The threaded discourse option at xmca offers a close equivalent to a
> > blog
> > and is
> > in place.
> > 4. Many of those who favor a blog have never made a single contribution to
> > the ongoing
> > discussion at xmca, and many of those who do contribute are not
> > enthusiastic about
> > a blog.
> >
> > How to interpret #4? Is it that all the blog advocates would be
> > contributing to xmca if it were a blog? I doubt that, but its possible. Is
> > it that older members of xmca, who do contribute to the discussion are
> > less
> > comfortable with blogs? This seems possible?
> > In any event, if the blog enthusiasts would like to jump in and help
> > create
> > an xmca blog
> > and try it out, we here at ucsd would be glad to help by providing
> > whatever
> > info we can, but the volunteers would be responsible for keeping track of
> > posters, keeping up the archive,
> > making it accessible, etc.
> >
> > Perhaps an interesting middle way to experiment would be to have the
> > upcoming, in the fall, XMCA course use a blog so people could try it out.
> > (The issue of this course will be
> > dealt with in a separate message).
> >
> > Another issue related to posting. Somewhere near 100 people voted for a
> > discussion of the
> > Shaffer and Clinton article. It is chock a block full of interesting,
> > relevant ideas to this
> > forum. VERY few people have taken the trouble to comment. Of course, there
> > can be
> > all sorts of explanations. Summer has started, people are away, or busy
> > catching up, or
> > or or or or....... But the fact remains that XMCA is a lousy spectator
> > sport
> > and learning,
> > I believe we all believe, should be an active process.
> >
> > Why is it that we get a lot of activity discussing the medium, but avoid
> > engaging its content?
> > I do not think that shifting to a blog would solve this problem, but
> > perhaps. Meantime,
> > what do you think of the idea of toolforthought? Do you believe that
> > agency
> > should be
> > equally attributed to artifacts and people? Do you believe that new
> > computational media
> > reduce the necessity of learning how to subtract 105 from 204? Do you
> > think
> > that
> > David and Katherine have reinvented Vygotsky's criticism of the telephone
> > operater
> > mediated telephone network?
> >
> > What do you think about all of this?
> > mike
> >
> > On 6/21/07, jmgdo@berkeley.edu <jmgdo@berkeley.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > Agreed. I love the blog idea. The "blogosphere" as its called (I am a
> > > particularly blog-loving member and participant) offers a wonderful
> > shared
> > > space for community building. And its definitely the emerging media of
> > > "collaborative environment".
> > >
> > > My only practical concern is that every person who "posts" (rather than
> > > comments) must be invited into the blog as a contributor.
> > >
> > >
> > > > My 2 cents. Frankly, Email or 'listserv' is not a collaboration
> > > > environment. Collaboration needs a 'shared' environment... email
> > > > 'listsrve'
> > > > is simply crises-cross way of incomplete communication method - not
> > > > collaboration. New way of collaborating environments, say blogs, are
> > > > efficient and easier to extract 'knowledge' from the gathered
> > 'content'.
> > > >
> > > > On Blog platforms, you have an option to subscribe/post new content
> > via
> > > > Email or RSS based on their own frequency - real-time, once a day or
> > > > whatever and those who do not want to be interrupted with emails...
> > can
> > > > visit blogs on their own time and contribute. Things in the world are
> > > > changing at an alarming rate that means we need to get on to new way
> > of
> > > > collaboration starting 'yesterday' and not 'tomorrow', especially the
> > > > academia - the teaching community. Perhaps you may have seen this clip
> > > at
> > > > the YouTube but here are some facts..
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wE6yFYgP8
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy...
> > > > ---
> > > > Naeem Hashmi
> > > > Chief Research Officer
> > > > Information Frameworks
> > > > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
> > > > W: http://infoframeworks.com
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Peter Smagorinsky" <smago@uga.edu>
> > > > To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:17 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> add my vote for a regular old listserv. No way I'd do this if it
> > meant
> > > >> keeping up with a blog. p
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Peter Smagorinsky
> > > >> The University of Georgia
> > > >> Department of Language and Literacy Education
> > > >> 125 Aderhold Hall
> > > >> Athens, GA 30602-7123
> > > >> smago@uga.edu /fax:706-542-4509/phone:706-542-4507/
> > > >> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> > ]
> > > >> On
> > > >> Behalf Of Vera Steiner
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:07 PM
> > > >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > >> Subject: Re: [xmca] blog alternative to email list
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree with Carol. It is much simpler as most of us check e-mail
> > > >> messages
> > > >> once a day, Vera
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Carol Macdonald wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Carol Macdonald says:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I read the e-mails, whereas I might not migrate to a blog of my own
> > > >>> initiative when very busy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 19/06/07, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I agree with Naeem on this. I think a blog would be a far superior
> > > >>>> platform; and that if we were starting now from scratch, that is
> > how
> > > >>>> we'd
> > > >>>> do it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Naeem Hashmi wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> > Agree with Diarmuid.. Interesting forum but instead of going
> > back
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> 'old
> > > >>>> > email" distribution method, perhaps best is use a 'blog' forum.
> > > >>>> Goal is
> > > >>>> > achieved without constant 'emeil' interruptions...
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Naeem
> > > >>>> > ---
> > > >>>> > Naeem Hashmi
> > > >>>> > Chief Research Officer
> > > >>>> > Information Frameworks
> > > >>>> > T: 603-552-5171 M: 603-661-6820
> > > >>>> > W: http://infoframeworks.com
> > > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diarmuid Fogarty"
> > > >>>> > <diarmuid@madasafish.com>
> > > >>>> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:21 PM
> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Is there a Ph.D. in "science" Re: [xmca] Fwd: New
> > > >>>> > DegreeProgramsOxford
> > > >>>> >
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