Mike, the meaning of "subjectivity" is highly contested. It's
genealogy is indeed very interesting, but can be confusing.
http://home.mira.net/~andy/works/subject.htm is a first draft
introduction to the book I am writing on "The= Subject".
It should be remembered that not only Soviet psychology, but also structuralism and post-structuralism - archetypal postmodern strands
of= theory, dominant in the capitalist world today, discount the role
of the= individual in the making of history. This particular failure
is far from= being the exclusive property of CHAT. Far from it. In
fact, I think= the CHAT tradition is one of the few currents with the
theoretical= resources to overcome what is widely called "the death of
At 04:50 PM 30/10/2005 -0800, you wrote:
Among my uncertainties as we start= to dig more deeply into Anna's
is whether we are using key terms in the same way. An old worry
respect to the word, object, and one that occurred to me in seeking
interpret the article. But subjectivity is also a term, the meaning
varies with the discourse it is a part of. I thought it might be
the range of meanings we bring to the discussion. As a start, here
The OED gives this defintion:
*. a.* Consciousness of one's perceived states. *1821*
*Blackw. Mag.* X. 249 In the object, we infer our own existence and
*Compar. Philol.* vii. 287 The idea of life, and therefore of subjectivity,
is put out of sight. *1885* J.
*Types Eth. Th.* I. I. xi. §8. 211 They forbid us to appropriate
to our= own
subjectivity the intelligent acts of which we are conscious.
*b.* A conscious being.
*Lit. Rem.* (1838) III. 1 The Identity. The absolute subjectivity,
only attribute is the Good. *1840* W. H.
*Applic. Panth. Princ.* I. 103 Individuals stand as 'the
realize the substantial' of the Idea.
*2. a.* The quality or condition of viewing things exclusively
medium of one's own mind or individuality; the condition of being dominated
by or absorbed in one's personal feelings, thoughts, concerns,
Omniana* I. 220 The nature of Bulls, which will be found always to contain
in them a confusion of (what the Schoolmen would have called) Objectivety
and Subjectivety, in plain English, the impression of a thing as
in itself and extrinsically, with the idea which the mind abstracts
*Guesses* (1859) 97 Often..the plural *we* is..a help to those who cannot
get quit of their subjectivity, or write about objects objectively.
Chr. Ch.* (ed. 2) 79 The vast increase of what is called
very much greater portion of man's life and interest which is
observation of his own thoughts, feelings, and actions. *1871* R.
*Ess.* I. 248 'Subjectivity', as it is called, clouds the eyes; we
know how far our own individual deficiencies, and sins, and
our vision. *1880* *Scribner's Mag.* XX. 117 [Poe's] studies of character
were not made from observation, but from acquaintance with himself;
subjectivity, or egoism, crippled his invention. *1886*
*Ess. fr. Guardian* I. 11 This pioneer of an everybody's literature
*b.* That quality of literary or graphic art which depends on the expression
of the personality or individuality of the artist; the
individuality of= an
artist as expressed in his work.
*Table T.* 12 May, A subjectivity of the poet, as of Milton, who
before himself in everything he writes. *1882-3* *Schaff's Encycl. Relig.
Knowl.* II. 953/2 Characteristics of Hebrew..poetry: 1.
Hebrew poet deals only with what concerns him personally. *1889* E.
*Seas & Lands* iv. (1895) 49 'Fidelis' (Agnes Maude Machar), who is
frequently called the first of Dominion poetesses, excels in a
I am CERTAIN that there are very important discussions of uses of
more appropriate to the present discussion. I would find it helpful
pointed to the relevant sources.
Mary-- How do we collectively get our eyes coordinated on "Becoming
post-human"? That seems important
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