RE: International Women's Day

From: Eugene Matusov (
Date: Mon Mar 08 2004 - 05:49:18 PST

Dear Carol-

It is about 1% of total "Russian" (they are not all ethnically Russians)
population is in jail.

You said,
> We need such efficient policemen in South
> Africa, where the majority of violent crime is never convicted.

Who said it is efficient?! My aunt works as a volunteer lawyer in Russian
Human Right watch committee in Russia and she told me about thousand
innocent people being placed in prisons in Russia while organized crime
together with official corruption is very strong in the country. Ordered
killing is still very common in Russia...

On the Russian program devoted to the International Women's Day they
interviewed a woman prisoner who got 7 years of the maximum security jail
for killing her husband who systematically beat and raped her. She will
spend the rest of her term in a regular prison.

What do you think?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carol Macdonald []
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:51 AM
> To:
> Subject: RE: International Women's Day
> 1.2 million prisoners in all? We need such efficient policemen in South
> Africa, where the majority of violent crime is never convicted.
> Carol
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eugene Matusov []
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:31 AM
> To:
> Cc: PIG
> Subject: RE: International Women's Day
> Dear Mike-
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Cole []
> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:23 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: International Women's Day
> >
> > Eugene-- What did you think of the Goody article?
> I like the article (although several first pages are missing...)
> >A majority of Russian
> > doctors were women when I lived there, which drove down the presige of
> > being a doctor, and the pay.
> That is right. I often use this example in my classes to show that the
> exception from a rule (i.e., many Soviet doctors were women) serves an
> illustration to a bigger power of gender inequalities.
> >I wonder if in the land of Putin capitalism
> > whether the value of being a CEO will be driven down by the dominance
> > of women?
> >
> > What do you surmise?
> I think Russian women handle better the burden of the economic
> transformation in Russia. Now, Russian women have about 20 years more life
> expectancy than Russian men do. Women show to be more flexible in finding
> new economic opportunities while men are more depressed because of
> of old Soviet economy. As it was explained in the program, Russian women
> drink less than Russian men do and have better financial and
> skills. Despite of this, the big business is predominately controlled by
> in Russia.
> By the way, Russian TV announced that tomorrow, March 8, all maximum
> security prisons for women will be closed in part because of a high level
> violence launched against the female prisoners by male guards there. They
> say that currently there are 50,000 women in Russian prisons, which is 6%
> all prison population.
> In the program, they discussed homosexual relations in Russian prisons
> took interviews from former prisoners). Unlike male homosexual relations
> Russian prisons, lesbian relations in Russian prisons are often
> non-hierarchical, non-violent, and do not have much stigma.
> What do you think?
> Eugene
> > mike

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