I am pretty sure I have heard this purity argument before. Recently.
Where was that? When was that?....
I'd bet few really believe that if Gore were president we'd be
occupying Iraq following a war of naked aggression.
Who stayed home rather than sully themselves? Who voted for the purer choice?
That could of worked out better.
---Sorry to be so far off the usual list focus and mood but .... I
keeping on thinking history teaches. It must be the silly social
studies teacher in me.
>Well if your talking about Donald Rumsfield (he looks more like a
>mouse though), I'm sure some NeoCons will join you.
>
>Part of me finds Dean's "message" attractive, but the problem is his
>practice does not correlate. For example, he talks about health
>care, but the plan is to the right of Clinton's. He is anti Iraq War
>2, but does not support getting out. He has continually received
>great ratings from the NRA. His views from gay rights onward take a
>strong state rights perspective.
>
>As far as Political Compass, I have found it accurate after people
>get used to the idea. I think its important that in the "anybody but
>Bush" movement most the candidates fall into the authoritarian
>Right quadrant.
>
>Judy, whoever the Dem candidate is you can be guaranteed, he will
>move much farther to the right. I find myself wondering if Bore Gore
>were Prez, what specifically would be different? My guess is not
>much of substance.
>
>Personally, Kucinich is the only candidate that's worth the symbolic
>act of voting. At least it could be done with a clear conscience and
>outside the authoritarian right quadrant.
>
>The ISR had a very interesting article on The Other War Party, which
>traces the history of the NeoCons from the Democratic Party onward.
>
>http://www.isreview.org/issues/33/dems&war.shtml
>
>N***
>
>
>Judy Diamondstone wrote:
>
>>I can sympathize with those who are looking for 'the great liberal hope' who
>>feel disappointed with Dean, but I can't accept the relative ranking on the
>>"political compass' website. Dean attracted a lot of independent voters,
>>because he came off as less ideological & more pragmatic than the others. As
>>for Kerry's status as 'most liberal' of the lot, here's a video I received
>>(from a Dean supporter):
>>
>>http://www.idiomstudio.com/mypov.htm
>>
>>I would vote for Donald Duck if he were the only one opposing george w. -
>>but how many others would join me?
>>
>>Judy
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: N*** [mailto:vygotsky who-is-at nateweb.info]
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:49 PM
>>>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>Subject: Re: re internet and politics
>>>
>>>
>>>All he needed to do was tear off his shirt and start kicking someone in
>>>the face.
>>>
>>>Funny thing is "working class" is not what comes to my mind with Dean.
>>>Very few core supporters tend to be "working class" or minorities for
>>>that matter.
>>>
>>>I find it kind of ironic that he is held out as the "great liberal hope"
>>>since his views are quite right of center. Political Compass
>>>http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/usprimaries.html has
>>> an interesting graph highlighting where the Dems are politically.
>>>Sadly, most are bunched right near Bush.
>>>
>>>
>>>Eugene Matusov wrote:
>>>
>>>>Dear everybody-
>>>>
>>>>Dean's infamous yeargh speech after his somewhat poor
>>>
>>>performance in Iowa
>>>
>>>>reminded me wrestling. Thanks to my son, I had to watch wrestling for
>>>>several years. Maybe because of this experience, I was not
>>>
>>>alienated by his
>>>
>>>>macho yeargh. He sounded like a wrestler, like Rick Flair (for those who
>>>>knows him). I wonder if people who watch wrestling have similar
>>>
>>>feelings...
>>>
>>>>Dean's yeargh, like wrestling, has gender and class flavor (back to our
>>>>discussion of emotions)... It is very working class male yeargh...
>>>>
>>>>What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>Eugene
>>>>PS Several years ago my son designed a website for kids from
>>>
>>>Latin American
>>>
>>>>Center where I work. The site has been inactive for long time
>>>
>>>by now but you
>>>
>>>>may find a spirit of wrestling it captures...
>>>>http://ematusov.soe.udel.edu/kids.web/wrestling_welcome_page.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Bill Barowy [mailto:wbarowy@attbi.com]
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:46 PM
>>>>>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>>>Subject: Re: re internet and politics
>>>>>
>>>>>On Saturday 24 January 2004 9:18 pm, N*** wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>exactly like it, I think I might settle on calling it "yeargh".
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought it was my New England ear, but after listening carefully, I
>>>>
>>>>think
>>>>
>>>>>your spelling is better. I don't see the mp3 collection as a new
>>>>
>>>>phenomenon
>>>>
>>>>>-- creative mixes go back even further than the birth of techno, and as
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>hosting website proclaims, the mixes don't necessarily diss, but show an
>>>>>understanding of the personality as human. It's an
>>>
>>>enlightening website.
>>>
>>>>>Thanks to David!
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