Re: question on class

Paul Dillon (dillonph who-is-at northcoast.com)
Fri, 22 Oct 1999 21:27:07 -0700

Gee Judy, I didn't know you cared. Simply seeking susan, y'know?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Diamondstone <diamonju who-is-at rci.rutgers.edu>
To: xmca who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: question on class

>Oh, Paul - I was referring to you and me.
>
>Can you say more about your concern about 'all those selves' that i had
>mentioned?
>
>At 12:43 PM 10/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Judy,
>>
>>I'm wondering who the "us" is when you write: "I wonder, however, if the
>>notion of "false
>>>consciousness" -- i.e., not-middle-class -- gets us anywhere, "
>>Particularly in relation to all those selves you are "paying attention
to."
>>
>>Paul H. Dillon
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Judy Diamondstone <diamonju who-is-at rci.rutgers.edu>
>>To: xmca who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>>Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 12:16 PM
>>Subject: Re: question on class
>>
>>
>>>A Can "working class" be seen in a
>>>>cultural way as in having community, needs, dreams etc. or is it solely
>>>>"false", "negative" or in opposition to the middleclass. Is "working
>>class"
>>>>simply an identity without content a product or construction of "civil
>>>>society" or is there something more.
>>>
>>>That's an excellent question! I wonder, however, if the notion of "false
>>>consciousness" -- i.e., not-middle-class -- gets us anywhere. I've been
>>>paying attention to similar questions in different literatures, which
seem
>>>motivated in part by a concern for complexity and for parsing out
different
>>>strata or time depths in sociocultural phenomena - like the distinction
>>>between the situated social self and the "cultural" or enduring self; or
>>the
>>>autobiographical self, the discoursal self, the writing self.... I'm
>>>inclined to see 'class' as positioning within a wider culture, a
>>perspective
>>>or bias towards certain content rather than other content available in
the
>>>wider culture. Reverting once again to Blake "anything that's possible to
>>be
>>>believed [seen, imagined] is a portion of the truth [that ever elusive
>>>'true' consciounessness...]
>>>Judy
>>>
>>>
>>>Judith Diamondstone (732) 932-7496 Ext. 352
>>>Graduate School of Education
>>>Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
>>>10 Seminary Place
>>>New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1183
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Judith Diamondstone (732) 932-7496 Ext. 352
>Graduate School of Education
>Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
>10 Seminary Place
>New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1183
>
>