Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

Sure, Anton. Of course, cover to cover. As life allows. Lets continue these
arrangements off line.
mike

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Mike! Just a reminder, if you do not mind: for the sake of
> "ecological validity" all materials that we scan
> need to be scanned literally from cover to cover: sometimes fairly
> important information can be found on
> "non-scientific" pages with seemingly purely technical information like,
> e.g., info about the publisher or even
> advertisement of other publications.
>
> Also, just so that we do not do scanning of same materials twice, I
> suggest it might be not unreasonable to discuss
> the materials in your possession first: some of these might have already
> been digitized by our team.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Anton
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; ulvi icil
> <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:41:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
>
> I'll set about doing some scanning, Anton.
> mike
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Sure Mike: as it has been announced, ALL items on the list of Vygotsky's
> works published during his lifetime
> will be electonically republished in different formats (i.e. as scans and
> as text files in doc, html, and/or pdf)
> in the near future. So, any originals of Vygotsky will be gladly and most
> gratefully accepted.
>
> Our definite priority at this point is:
> (a) larger works, such as books and paper collections
> (b) that were not included --or were most ferociously distorted-- in the
> six-volume Collected Works
>
> Thus, for instance, "Pedologiia podrostka" [Paedology of adolescent] (vols
> 1 & 2, 1929 & 1930 respectively)
> or, for example, "defectological" volume of collected works of various
> authors, edited by Vygotsky (1924),
> are already online, accessible 24/7. Neither has ever been republished
> until now. The rest of the kind will follow.
>
> However, other works -- smaller or relatively unharmed by Soviet editions
> -- are also of considerable interest.
>
> Luria, as well as virtually any other member of Vygotsky Circle, is of
> enormous interest, and many thanks for your offer.
> Yet, his works -- for copyright reasons -- should be treated with certain
> care. I should think it over.
>
> A "small collection of 1920's Russian journals", however, is of tremendous
> interest, so the more you might have
> in any scanned format -- as collections of image files (tiff, png, jpeg,
> etc.) or one file pdf -- the better!
> These are absolutely invaluable and will be uploaded among other journal
> materials that we currently
> have access to. Just please let me know the concrete details of these
> publications whenever you feel
> you might be able to get them scanned/copied/shared, etc. Alternatively,
> in case of any complications,
> we could provide scanning as soon as PsyAnima team has access to these
> materials.
>
>  Izvestia APN that you mentioned are in principle also available, but not
> fully accessible yet.
> PsyAnima can do quite a lot, virtually anything, but, unfortunately,  not
> all at the same time. So, this stuff will be released
> somewhat later, in due time.
>
> Finally, Dubna might be a nice place that, incidentally, presently hosts
> PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal,
> but it is not unlikely that in the foreseeable future the whole enterprise
> eventually and entirely goes global and
> looses its geographic denomination, becoming, thus, just a PsyAnima,
> Psychological Journal :). Also, I truly hope
> that neither Dubna nor any other place within Russian Federation will ever
> become " the center of the universe",
> which might looks like a pretty nightmarish perspective for the
> civilization :).
>
> However, speaking of the " the center of the universe ", you are
> certainly right in one respect:
> it is the *PsyAnima* anonymous and globally distributed group of scholars,
> experts and activists
> that is going to soon become " the center of the universe ", indeed!
>
>
> :)
>
>
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> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; ulvi icil
> <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:48:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
>
> Do you have a list of texts you are anxious to reprint and make available,
> Anton? I have made about all the Luria stuff in journal form available
> online free. I do have copies of some of his books in English
> or Russian. I have a small collection of various 1920's Russian journals I
> obtained from Luria. Rossolimo
> and others.
>
> Would pdfs of those materials be useful?
>
> I have been wondering about the availability of Izvestia APN for the
> 1940's and 1950's. Do they exist in an accessible archive somewhere?
>
> Soon Dubna will be the center of the universe!
>
> mike
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> More or less correct, Mike.
>
> In terms of support, here is the list of procedures, actions, and
> operations that participation in the project involves:
>
> 1) acquiring (i.e. copying, borrowing, scanning, purchasing) the texts
> 2) scanning
> 3) text recognition: automated, manual and combination of both
> 4) creating doc/pdf files: formatting , typesetting, etc.
> 5) uploading and distributing the product online FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE
> READERs
>
> That's basically it. Another set of activities is related to research
> (historical, textological, theoretical, etc.) work,
> then, importantly, translating this research into roughly half dozen
> languages of international Vygotskian science,
> thus, importantly, creating a layer of expert commentaries to the texts
> (same issues as in research), --
>
> but all this is some sort of super-structure. The basis is the texts and,
> having the texts, we can research or
> translate, or even print them out :). But the core needs to be created
> first.
>
> So, back to your question. We need any support that will help us to move
> further--people, partners, sponsors--
> whatever facilitates the development and improves the quality of the
> project. We have had rumours about texts
> instead of the texts for tooooo long. Enough: the time for action has come.
>
> AY
>
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> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> *Cc:* ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:37:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
>
> It appears that you are lacking any support from the united states,
> England, or Australia, Anton. Is that correct?
>
> If so, what sort of participation, support, and attention are you seeking?
>
> The text of a Luria text on monism and psychoanalysis that appears in the
> Kornilov volume is available from a translation in Soviet Psychology, I
> believe. It probably is not a translation up to your standards, but some
> might find it useful.
>
> Good luck with your ambitious project.
> mike
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Given that, as a series of recent studies most convincingly show, we do
> not know what exactly "Russian Vygotsky" is,
>
> and what we have instead is a bunch of texts distorted and/or falsified by
> their editors,  -- in other words --
>
> we do not have a reliable collection of *original* Vygotsky's works --
>
> certain amount of work needs to be done to dis- and un-cover the original
> Vygotsky, in Russian, first.
>
>
> Later, a similar English/ Portuguese/ Italian/ German/ French/ Spanish/
> Hebrew/ Arabic/ Pharsi/ Turkish, etc.
>
> "Complete Vygotsky" project might be launched, if needed and if anybody is
> interested. However, a solid
>
> foundation of original Russian texts is a prerequisite of any further
> international developments of the kind.
>
> Also, comprehensive textological and historiographic work and a solid
> layer of expert scholarly commentaries is a must
> if we ever aim to have a major comprehensible collection of Vygotsky's
> text, regardless of language,
> that is, in Russian or in translation.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:35:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
>
>
> In Russian or in English?
>
> Ulvi
>
>
>
> 2012/11/14 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
>
> Finally, complete works of L.S. Vygotsky are in press: PsyAnima Complete
> Vygotsky --
> >
> >http://psyanimajournal.livejournal.com/3526.html
> >
> >Volunteers, partners, and sponsors are needed.
> >
> >The project is affiliated with PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal.
> >
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