Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)

[Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>]

Thanks a lot, Mike! Just a reminder, if you do not mind: for the sake of "ecological validity" all materials that we scan 
need to be scanned literally from cover to cover: sometimes fairly important information can be found on 

"non-scientific" pages with seemingly purely technical information like, e.g., info about the publisher or even 

advertisement of other publications.


Also, just so that we do not do scanning of same materials twice, I suggest it might be not unreasonable to discuss

the materials in your possession first: some of these might have already been digitized by our team.


Thanks again!


Anton



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 From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> 
Cc: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:41:05 PM
Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
 

I'll set about doing some scanning, Anton.
mike


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> wrote:

Sure Mike: as it has been announced, ALL items on the list of Vygotsky's works published during his lifetime
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>will be electonically republished in different formats (i.e. as scans and as text files in doc, html, and/or pdf)
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>in the near future. So, any originals of Vygotsky will be gladly and most gratefully accepted. 
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>Our definite priority at this point is:
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>(a) larger works, such as books and paper collections
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>(b) that were not included --or were most ferociously distorted-- in the six-volume Collected Works
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>Thus, for instance, "Pedologiia podrostka" [Paedology of adolescent] (vols 1 & 2, 1929 & 1930 respectively)
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>or, for example, "defectological" volume of collected works of various authors, edited by Vygotsky (1924),
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>are already online, accessible 24/7. Neither has ever been republished until now. The rest of the kind will follow.
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>However, other works -- smaller or relatively unharmed by Soviet editions -- are also of considerable interest.
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>Luria, as well as virtually any other member of Vygotsky Circle, is of enormous interest, and many thanks for your offer.
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>Yet, his works -- for copyright reasons -- should be treated with certain care. I should think it over.
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>A "small collection of 1920's Russian journals", however, is of tremendous interest, so the more you might have
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>in any scanned format -- as collections of image files (tiff, png, jpeg, etc.) or one file pdf -- the better! 
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>These are absolutely invaluable and will be uploaded among other journal materials that we currently
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>have access to. Just please let me know the concrete details of these publications whenever you feel
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>you might be able to get them scanned/copied/shared, etc. Alternatively, in case of any complications,
>we could provide scanning as soon as PsyAnima team has access to these materials.
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> Izvestia APN that you mentioned are in principle also available, but not fully accessible yet.
>PsyAnima can do quite a lot, virtually anything, but, unfortunately,  not all at the same time. So, this stuff will be released
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>somewhat later, in due time.
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>Finally, Dubna might be a nice place that, incidentally, presently hosts PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal,
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>but it is not unlikely that in the foreseeable future the whole enterprise eventually and entirely goes global and
>looses its geographic denomination, becoming, thus, just a PsyAnima, Psychological Journal :). Also, I truly hope
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>that neither Dubna nor any other place within Russian Federation will ever become " the center of the universe", 
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>which might looks like a pretty nightmarish perspective for the civilization :).
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>However, speaking of the " the center of the universe ", you are certainly right in one respect:
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>it is the *PsyAnima* anonymous and globally distributed group of scholars, experts and activists
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>that is going to soon become " the center of the universe ", indeed! 
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>:)
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>________________________________
> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> 
>Cc: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>; ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:48:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
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>Do you have a list of texts you are anxious to reprint and make available, Anton? I have made about all the Luria stuff in journal form available online free. I do have copies of some of his books in English
>or Russian. I have a small collection of various 1920's Russian journals I obtained from Luria. Rossolimo
>and others. 
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>Would pdfs of those materials be useful?
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>I have been wondering about the availability of Izvestia APN for the 1940's and 1950's. Do they exist in an accessible archive somewhere?
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>Soon Dubna will be the center of the universe!
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>mike
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>On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>More or less correct, Mike.
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>>In terms of support, here is the list of procedures, actions, and operations that participation in the project involves:
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>>1) acquiring (i.e. copying, borrowing, scanning, purchasing) the texts
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>>2) scanning
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>>3) text recognition: automated, manual and combination of both
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>>4) creating doc/pdf files:  formatting , typesetting, etc.
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>>5) uploading and distributing the product online FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE READERs
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>>That's basically it. Another set of activities is related to research (historical, textological, theoretical, etc.) work,
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>>then, importantly, translating this research into roughly half dozen languages of international Vygotskian science, 
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>>thus, importantly, creating a layer of expert commentaries to the texts (same issues as in research), --
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>>but all this is some sort of super-structure. The basis is the texts and, having the texts, we can research or 
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>>translate, or even print them out :). But the core needs to be created first.
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>>So, back to your question. We need any support that will help us to move further--people, partners, sponsors--
>>whatever facilitates  the development  and improves the quality of the project. We have had rumours about texts 
>>instead of the texts for tooooo long. Enough: the time for action has come.
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>>AY
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>>________________________________
>> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>>To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> 
>>Cc: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> 
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:37:21 PM
>>Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
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>>It appears that you are lacking any support from the united states, England, or Australia, Anton. Is that correct? 
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>>If so, what sort of participation, support, and attention are you seeking?
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>>The text of a Luria text on monism and psychoanalysis that appears in the 
>>Kornilov volume is available from a translation in Soviet Psychology, I believe. It probably is not a translation up to your standards, but some might find it useful. 
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>>Good luck with your ambitious project.
>>mike
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>>On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>Given that, as a series of recent studies most convincingly show, we do not know what exactly "Russian Vygotsky" is,
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>>>and what we have instead is a bunch of texts distorted and/or falsified by their editors,  -- in other words --
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>>>we do not have a reliable collection of *original* Vygotsky's works --
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>>>certain amount of work needs to be done to dis- and un-cover the original Vygotsky, in Russian, first.
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>>>Later, a similar English/ Portuguese/ Italian/ German/ French/ Spanish/ Hebrew/ Arabic/ Pharsi/ Turkish, etc.
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>>>"Complete Vygotsky" project might be launched, if needed and if anybody is interested. However, a solid 
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>>>foundation of original Russian texts is a prerequisite of any further international developments of the kind.
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>>>Also, comprehensive textological and historiographic work and a solid layer of expert scholarly commentaries is a must 
>>>if we ever aim to have a major comprehensible collection of Vygotsky's text, regardless of language, 
>>>that is, in Russian or in translation.
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
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>>>To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:35:34 AM
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>>>Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
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>>>In Russian or in English?
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>>>Ulvi
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>>>2012/11/14 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
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>>>Finally, complete works of L.S. Vygotsky are in press: PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky --
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>>>>http://psyanimajournal.livejournal.com/3526.html
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>>>>Volunteers, partners, and sponsors are needed.
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>>>>The project is affiliated with PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal.
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