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Re: Fwd: Fwd: [xmca] A Failure of Communication
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- From: Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:19:16 -0500
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Hi and thanks for asking
RL
For Dewey, *Mind is primarily a verb *(Dewey, 1934, p. 274).
Dewey, J. (1934). *Art as experience*. New York: Capricorn.
Of course this notion comes straight out of Hegel who wrote that "mind is
only what it does, and its act is to make itself the object of its
own consciousness" .*Philosophy of Right*,
§<http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/pr/prstate.htm#PR343>
343, 216.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM, vwilk <vwilk@inf.shizuoka.ac.jp> wrote:
> If the Ur-Act, the basic, elementary act of human (intellectual) life
> relevant to concepts.
>
> For all the stars of present-day continental philosophy is: pidgeon-holing.
> and the concrete answer given by Hegel, Vygotsky, Activity Theory, Thomas
> Kuhn
> and Andy is: problem-solving.
>
> What is the concrete path of development that goes through Dewey?
>
>
> (2012/11/14 10:05), Robert Lake wrote:
>
>> And don't forget Dewey :-)
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>
>> Larry, picking up on a theme introduced by Mike earlier - we have to ask:
>>> what is the Ur-Act, the basic, elementary act of human (intellectual)
>>> life?
>>> I know of only two answers to this question, relevant to concepts.
>>>
>>> The abstract answer given by mediavel logic, Linnaeus, the "psychology of
>>> concepts," all the stars of present-day continental philosophy is:
>>>
>>> pidgeon-holing.
>>>
>>> The concrete answer given by Hegel, Vygotsky, Activity Theory, Thomas
>>> Kuhn
>>> and me is:
>>>
>>> problem-solving.
>>>
>>> This is what creates a line of development, Larry.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>> ------------
>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>> Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/
>>> Book: http://www.brill.nl/concepts
>>> http://ucsd.academia.edu/****AndyBlunden<http://ucsd.academia.edu/**AndyBlunden>
>>> <http://ucsd.**academia.edu/AndyBlunden<http://ucsd.academia.edu/AndyBlunden>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry Purss wrote:
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>> your comment:
>>>> "Ideal typical path of development" *points to* distinct settings (e.g.
>>>> natural science, everyday life at home, school, etc.) which is indeed
>>>> close
>>>> to the idea of "genre," but "ideal typical path of development" is after
>>>> all about *paths of development*, ideal ones at that, not settings,
>>>> projects, theories, domains, social groups, frames, or anything else. :)
>>>> Andy, if the focus remains on *typical paths of development* OF
>>>> genres,
>>>> OF distinct settings OF the existential life world, is it possible to
>>>> have
>>>> a conversation within the multi-verse of *romantic science*
>>>> As I understand the focus on *typical* is *scientific* the paths of
>>>> development may be romantic and implicate effective history.
>>>> I am circling around your invitation to have conversations that are
>>>> interdiciplinary. Simon Critchley, exploring the development of
>>>> Continental
>>>> Philosophy wrote about Heidegger's idea of
>>>> *an existential CONCEPTION of science* Critchley commented,
>>>> "This would show how the practices of the natural sciences arise out
>>>> of
>>>> life-world practices, and that the life-world practices are not simply
>>>> reducible to natural scientific explanation"
>>>> Andy, your specific project to develop awareness of the *typical
>>>> paths*
>>>> of develop of concept use and transformation through time is emerging
>>>> within a particular tradition or genre of discourse [within effective
>>>> history]. I am playfully inquiring if it may be possible to *play* [a
>>>> word you would not use but points to a hermeneutical genre] on a larger
>>>> *field of play* that *hears* and acknowledges your voice.
>>>> I will bring the discussion back to the paper under discussion and the
>>>> fuzzy boundaries between spontaneous and scientific [systematically
>>>> 'true'
>>>> organized] concepts. Andy the path of development FROM spontaneous TO
>>>> scientific concepts seems to have deen articulated within a genre.
>>>> However,
>>>> this is not a dis-interested scientific development. Mike pointed to
>>>> developmental praxis as centrally concerning *social goods, including
>>>> moral
>>>> goods*.
>>>> Within our developing understanding of ideal paths of concept
>>>> formation
>>>> how is this emerging understanding circling back to exploring how our
>>>> *hearing* gives *voice* to the other*?
>>>> {Which I suggest is one way to view the development of psychology as a
>>>> project within a shared moral compass}
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
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