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Re: Fwd: Fwd: [xmca] A Failure of Communication



Ah yes, Robert. I woke up suddenly at 7:30am this morning, awoken by the sound of "Ur-Act" landing in my mind. I lay unable to sleep again for 2 hours before getting up, with a head full of things to remember ... and I forgot Dewey! It is wonderful the connection between Vygotsky and American philosophy which is buried so deep in the foundations.

Andy

Robert Lake wrote:
And don't forget Dewey :-)

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

Larry, picking up on a theme introduced by Mike earlier - we have to ask:
what is the Ur-Act, the basic, elementary act of human (intellectual) life?
I know of only two answers to this question, relevant to concepts.

The abstract answer given by mediavel logic, Linnaeus, the "psychology of
concepts," all the stars of present-day continental philosophy is:

   pidgeon-holing.

The concrete answer given by Hegel, Vygotsky, Activity Theory, Thomas Kuhn
and me is:

   problem-solving.

This is what creates a line of development, Larry.

Andy
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Larry Purss wrote:

Andy
your comment:
"Ideal typical path of development" *points to* distinct settings (e.g.
natural science, everyday life at home, school, etc.) which is indeed close
to the idea of "genre," but "ideal typical path of development" is after
all about *paths of development*, ideal ones at that, not settings,
projects, theories, domains, social groups, frames, or anything else. :)
 Andy, if the focus remains on *typical paths of development* OF genres,
OF distinct settings OF the existential life world, is it possible to have
a conversation within the multi-verse of *romantic science*
As I understand the focus on *typical* is *scientific*  the paths of
development may be romantic and implicate effective history.
 I am circling around your invitation to have conversations that are
interdiciplinary. Simon Critchley, exploring the development of Continental
Philosophy wrote about Heidegger's idea of
  *an existential CONCEPTION of science*  Critchley commented,
 "This would show how the practices of the natural sciences arise out of
life-world practices, and that the life-world practices are not simply
reducible to natural scientific explanation"
 Andy, your specific project to develop awareness of the *typical paths*
of develop of concept use and transformation through time is  emerging
within a particular  tradition or genre of discourse [within effective
history].  I am playfully inquiring if it may be  possible to *play* [a
word you would not use but points to a hermeneutical genre] on a larger
*field of play*  that *hears* and acknowledges your voice.
 I will bring the discussion back to the paper under discussion and the
fuzzy boundaries between spontaneous and scientific [systematically 'true'
organized] concepts.  Andy the path of development FROM spontaneous TO
scientific concepts seems to have deen articulated within a genre. However,
this is not a dis-interested scientific development. Mike pointed to
developmental praxis as centrally concerning *social goods, including moral
goods*.
 Within our developing understanding of  ideal paths of concept formation
how is this emerging understanding circling back to exploring how our
*hearing* gives *voice* to the other*?
{Which I suggest is one way to view the development of psychology as a
project within a shared moral compass}
 Larry


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