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Re: [xmca] activity (was concepts)

The idea of temperature and the construction and use of thermostats are definitely implicated in one another, Huw, but there is not a simple relation between them. When you say (I think) that a thermostat "regulates an action" this is somewhat loose talk isn't it. I certainly use the thermostat on my gas fire here to regulate the temperature, and my action in so doing is an action using an artefact (the thermostat) is that what you meant? 

Andy

Huw Lloyd wrote:
On 23 April 2011 13:00, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote: 

    Instances and types are both involved here, Huw.
    In fact, any concept has individual, universal and particular moments.
Ok. And are are you happy that a type can be materially implemented, such as the notion of room temperature implemented in a thermostat, and that this type is not an action, but that it regulates an action? 

Huw


    Andy

    Huw Lloyd wrote:



        On 23 April 2011 06:41, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> wrote:

           I'll leave Marx on commodity Fetishsm for the moment,
        Martin, and

           solely to make the point that I am not alone on this
        business of
           meaning as act.

           For example, V P Zinchenko's "Vygotsky's ideas about units
        for the
           analysis of mind', in Culture, Communication and cognition:

           Vygvotskyan Perspectives, ed J V Wertsch CUP 1985, pp. 94-118:

             “one can consider tool-mediated action as being very close to
             meaning as unit of analysis.”


        Quick question, Andy.  Are you distinguishing instances and
        classifications?

        I can demonstrate a plan by executing it.  I can refer to the
        execution as an example of my plan.  But the execution in not
        a plan.

        Huw

           and Engestrom's "Learning by Expanding":

             “According to Vygotsky, the instrumentally mediated act
        ‘is the
             simplest segment of behavior that is dealt with by
        research based on
             elementary units’.”

           Andy



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