Re: [xmca] Time in the unit of analysis: Social representations

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Also because I enjoy Valsiner so much I'll throw this one in as well:

http://www.dialogicidad.cl/papers/Valsiner5.pdf






Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth@uvic.ca>
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The triangle itself EXCLUDES time and temporality as INNER aspects of 
history and development, the triangle orients us to synchronicity and 
synchronous aspects of activity and excludes diachronicity and diachronous 
aspects. This is my sense. Michael


 
On 2010-01-25, at 9:59 AM, mike cole wrote:

The fact that we are dealing with multiple simultaneously constituitive 
time
scales in all human development is very difficult to deal with and
represent. It would be great if we could get some representational tools 
for
this set of complications.

It would be fascinating to look at Bronfenbrenner embedded context two d
picture in same in UB's spirit, but not in his representation.

mike

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Larry Purss <lpurss@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Mike
> I hope this thread goes somewhere.
> I was thinking about a particular story you mentioned on the web which
> could be a reference point when schematizing the triangle.
> Your story of the "biography" (see Danzinger for his idea of the 
biography
> of objects) of the abacus as a tool and the history of situated 
practices in
> Japan seems central to CHAT narratives.
> The process of INTERNALIZATION where "master" abacus players no longer 
need
> to physically manipulate the abacus because the moves are manipulated
> internally seems to be a key notin that must be captured in the 
triangle.
> Mike, your story of how the abacus location in the culture has changed 
and
> the status positions of master players have transformed is also 
informative
> of the historicity of this theory.
> I hope others have further thoughts.  Historicity and time seem central 
to
> an expanded triangle.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:50 am
> Subject: [xmca] Time in the unit of analysis: Social representations
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Cc: "Glick, Joseph" <jglick@gc.cuny.edu>
> 
>> I have been reading the work of Sandra Jovchelovitch at LSE and
>> wonder if
>> this work has come to the attention of others? It seems very
>> closely related
>> to a CHAT perspective, with many common genealogical
>> roots. Just how closely her elaboration of Moscovici's work on social
>> representations is a chat perspective I am unsure. One onceuponatime
>> participant in xmca, Joe Glick has some apposite complementary
>> thingts to
>> say about her recent book, *Knowledge and Representation.
>> 
>> *Certainly seems worth a review in MCA if anyone is
>> interested/informed.
>> My particular reason for posting this note is that in her book,
>> which starts
>> with a subject-object-subject
>> triangle that, when elaborated, appears to have the elements
>> that folks on
>> this list appear to wish in a
>> metatheoretical framework, refers to work of Bauer and Gaskell
>> that contains
>> a triangle IN TIME. One often hears complaints about the a
>> temporality for
>> triangular representations of mediated activity theories, so I
>> thought the
>> Bauer and Gaskell picture might inspire somone to produce a
>> representationthat would do the same for Yrjo's expanded
>> triangle. Here is the social rep
>> version. Anyone out there able to
>> expand on this? (attached)?
>> mike
>> 
> 
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