Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT

[Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com>]

Hi!
I think we could discuss it in xmca to a broad participation and, at the
same time, we could work in small groups.

Luísa


2010/1/25 mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>

> I do not know the answer to this question: On the one hand, we wish broad
> participation. We need something like
> a set of 15 lectures. I believe that we have 15 such lecture nominees. We
> could start a google group with those we already know who have said they
> would contribute. And add to that group as conditions permit, form
> subcommitees there.
>
> But in so doing, we might be running up against excellent local plans
> between institutions, or under ISCAR aegis, etc.
> and we would not want to block any good things.
>
> Conundrum?
> mike
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Do we wish to continue this off the listserv?
>>
>> ~em
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Luisa Aires [mailto:laires11@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:21 PM
>> *To:* lchcmike@gmail.com; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Cc:* Duvall, Emily; Annalisa Sannino; Anne Edwards; Peter Sawchuk;
>> Marilyn Fleer
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree, Mike: broad access and ease of use must be the goals.
>>
>> Moodle is a friendly, free, open source platform and I think this LMS may
>> be our main medium of discussion. Other tools like blog, wiki may be used
>> (as secondary tools).
>>
>> Tuiton: online.
>>
>> Luisa Aires
>>
>>  2010/1/23 mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>>
>> Yes, all good questions, Emily.
>>
>> Set 1: technical issues. I would leave this to Luisa and others to agree
>> upon. Broad access and ease of use should be the goals.
>>
>> Set 2: Audience. I have no local master's program. This would be a class
>> in
>> the Comm/Psych/Cog Sci department here at UCSD but I would contribute to
>> general effort with a lecture or two and as one of discussants.
>>
>> Set 3. (Depending on audience, i guess). Content.
>>
>> Set 4. Temporal coordination.
>>
>> Note:your message did not include the many ISCAR and Helsinki folks that
>> evoked this discussion. I will cc a few of them in hopes we can hear from
>> them about their interest, lack thereof, ideas, etc.
>> EITHER its of broad use or not worth it.
>> mike
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, I'm definitely interested.
>> >
>> > Right now I work in Blackboard, have worked in Angel, and use Elluminate
>> > for meetings. I'm interested in ning, which would be free for people.
>> > Listserves,blogs, etc not a problem, but I do feel I'm a bit limited
>> > vis-à-vis mediums but that's simply a matter of experience. I have
>> > resources, faculty and students, that are well versed in various
>> distance
>> > bridging approaches to collaborative work so I feel confident re having
>> > support.
>> >
>> > Course wise - it's going to depend on the audience. Are we are looking
>> to
>> > build on what people already know, those who are already interested in
>> CHAT,
>> > SCT, etc, or are we looking to introduce and gather more into the fold?
>> >  Certainly a combination is possible. In addition, if materials are in
>> > different languages, will there be translations available for all of
>> them?
>> > Would postings (or however we communicate) be in English or multiple
>> > languages? Will we need translators? Quite a number of logistics issues,
>> but
>> > I think they can be easily resolved.
>> >
>> > Tuition?
>> >
>> > ~em
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of mike cole
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:08 AM
>> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
>> >
>> > Hi Luisa-
>> >
>> > The experience of a team of implementers would be necessary, I am pretty
>> > sure. We would need to host archived lectures, discussions around them.
>> We
>> > have to pick the medium of discussion (list serve, blog, moodle that
>> would
>> > be most widely accessible). We would have to decide if this was just a
>> > total
>> > free for all, or whether, for example, we would have a sequence that got
>> > repeated yearly, which could of course grow to be a sequence of
>> sequences.
>> > We would have to select texts, ideally in more than just English, where
>> > possible. And of course, the theme of the first course: Maybe something
>> > inclusive like "One Open Source Introduction to
>> Socio-cultural-historical
>> > approaches to human nature: Basic texts and concepts" (But maybe others
>> > will
>> > have better idea). And more.
>> >
>> >
>> > So, lets figure you would be part of an organizing group because of your
>> > background in DL and interest in the topic. Andy says he is willing to
>> > help,
>> > I think i recall a note from Emily in the affirmative, Anna Stetsenko
>> was
>> > suggested but not sure about her interest, Simon Fraser is considering
>> the
>> > idea. And a few others. But many are simply silent, either because they
>> > (mistakenly!) think they have nothing to offer, or because, perhaps,
>> they
>> > have other projects in mind to which they are devoting their attention.
>> >
>> > We'll see emerges.
>> > mike
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > What a wonderful idea, Mike!
>> > > If you think that my experience might be helpfull, it would be a
>> pleasure
>> > > for me to participate.
>> > >
>> > > Luísa A.
>> > >
>> > > 2010/1/21 Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
>> > >
>> > > > That would be excellent!
>> > > > ~em
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:
>> xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>> > > On
>> > > > Behalf Of mike cole
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:17 AM
>> > > > To: asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
>> > > > Cc: J.Derry@ioe.ac.uk; clot@cnam.fr; bodker@daimi.au.dk;
>> > > > berthel.sutter@bth.se; gutierrez@gseis.ucla.edu;
>> > > cgoodwin@humnet.ucla.edu;
>> > > > saija.volmari@helsinki.fi; Roger.Saljo@ped.gu.se; lorino@essec.fr;
>> > > > f.blackler@lancaster.ac.uk; natalia.gajdamaschko@gmail.com;
>> > > > t.o.digernes@intermedia.uio.no; pprior@illinois.edu;
>> > > > reijo.miettinen@helsinki.fi; dholland@unc.edu; mcole@weber.ucsd.edu
>> ;
>> > > > sten.ludvigsen@intermedia.uio.no; gerhard@colorado.edu;
>> > > > ymoro@human.tsukuba.ac.jp; cerf@inapg.inra.fr; amargolis@mail.ru;
>> > > > anne.edwards@education.ox.ac.uk; falk.seeger@uni-bielefeld.de;
>> > > > asa.makitalo@ped.gu.se; Ference.Marton@ped.gu.se;
>> > > > annshvedovskaya@gmail.com; lektorski@ultranet.ru; elkjaer@dpu.dk;
>> > > > georg.rueckriem@gmx.net; H.R.J.Daniels@bath.ac.uk;
>> > > > skagawa@human.tsukuba.ac.jp; psawchuk@oise.utoronto.ca;
>> > > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu; Marilyn.Fleer@education.monash.edu.au;
>> > > > jr.taylor@umontreal.ca; drrussel@iastate.edu;
>> terttu.grohn@helsinki.fi
>> > ;
>> > > > hildenil@zedat.fu-berlin.de; padler@usc.edu
>> > > > Subject: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
>> > > >
>> > > > I guess my question is this:
>> > > >
>> > > > Why are we not, collectively, offering such a course, where each
>> member
>> > > of
>> > > > the collective you are trying to form gives a lecture/discussion via
>> > > > internet DL? Credit could be given locally, or they could all pay
>> > > Helsinki
>> > > > a
>> > > > fee. Or whatever.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wouldn't that help build collaboration or is it not meaningful?
>> > > > mike
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Dear Mike,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We feel that it is beneficial to inform colleagues about this,
>> even
>> > if
>> > > > they
>> > > > > live far away.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > With kind regards,
>> > > > > Annalisa
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  Well, too bad and good luck to those who have the time and money
>> to
>> > > come
>> > > > >> to
>> > > > >> Helsinki.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Might there be a better way to proceed?
>> > > > >> mike
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:42 AM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>  Hello Mike!
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> This is not a dl class. Sorry for not being explicit about this
>> > > already
>> > > > >>> in
>> > > > >>> the message.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> With kind regards,
>> > > > >>> Annalisa
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>  Do students have to be physically present, or is this a dl
>> class?
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>> mike
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:33 AM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>  Dear Colleagues,
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> At University of Helsinki, we are running a Master's program
>> (in
>> > > > >>>>> English)
>> > > > >>>>> in Adult Education and Developmental Work Research. This
>> program
>> > is
>> > > > >>>>> based
>> > > > >>>>> on
>> > > > >>>>> cultural-historical activity theory and aimed at training
>> > competent
>> > > > >>>>> developers and interventionists in workplaces and other
>> > > > organizations.
>> > > > >>>>>  Please find below a link to a the call for applications:
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> http://www.helsinki.fi/atmo/index.htm
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> The deadline is the 1st of February for applicants who have
>> > gained
>> > > > >>>>> their
>> > > > >>>>> degrees outside Nordic countries. For those with degrees from
>> > > Nordic
>> > > > >>>>> countries, the deadline is the 26th of February.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> With kind regards,
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Yrjö Engeström      Reijo Miettinen     Annalisa Sannino
>> > Saija
>> > > > >>>>> Volmari
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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