Indeed.
A google group makes sense.
I would suggest that we at least need a place to pivot from, a
designated organizer that can take some responsibility to manage
this - perhaps from Simon Fraser?
I know my end also involves university issues and my dept chair and
dean want to be kept informed - bottom line is they don't want any
costs to the university.
On the other hand, my time is mine to use as I please - as long as I
don't neglect my job. Gets in the way of my fun sometimes.
~em
From: mike cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:30 AM
To: Duvall, Emily
Cc: Luisa Aires; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity; Annalisa Sannino;
Anne Edwards; Peter Sawchuk; Marilyn Fleer
Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
I do not know the answer to this question: On the one hand, we wish
broad participation. We need something like
a set of 15 lectures. I believe that we have 15 such lecture
nominees. We could start a google group with those we already know
who have said they would contribute. And add to that group as
conditions permit, form subcommitees there.
But in so doing, we might be running up against excellent local
plans between institutions, or under ISCAR aegis, etc.
and we would not want to block any good things.
Conundrum?
mike
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
wrote:
Do we wish to continue this off the listserv?
~em
From: Luisa Aires [mailto:laires11@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:21 PM
To: lchcmike@gmail.com; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Cc: Duvall, Emily; Annalisa Sannino; Anne Edwards; Peter Sawchuk;
Marilyn Fleer
Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
I agree, Mike: broad access and ease of use must be the goals.
Moodle is a friendly, free, open source platform and I think this
LMS may be our main medium of discussion. Other tools like blog,
wiki may be used (as secondary tools).
Tuiton: online.
Luisa Aires
2010/1/23 mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
Yes, all good questions, Emily.
Set 1: technical issues. I would leave this to Luisa and others to
agree
upon. Broad access and ease of use should be the goals.
Set 2: Audience. I have no local master's program. This would be a
class in
the Comm/Psych/Cog Sci department here at UCSD but I would
contribute to
general effort with a lecture or two and as one of discussants.
Set 3. (Depending on audience, i guess). Content.
Set 4. Temporal coordination.
Note:your message did not include the many ISCAR and Helsinki folks
that
evoked this discussion. I will cc a few of them in hopes we can hear
from
them about their interest, lack thereof, ideas, etc.
EITHER its of broad use or not worth it.
mike
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
wrote:
Yes, I'm definitely interested.
Right now I work in Blackboard, have worked in Angel, and use
Elluminate
for meetings. I'm interested in ning, which would be free for people.
Listserves,blogs, etc not a problem, but I do feel I'm a bit limited
vis-à-vis mediums but that's simply a matter of experience. I have
resources, faculty and students, that are well versed in various
distance
bridging approaches to collaborative work so I feel confident re
having
support.
Course wise - it's going to depend on the audience. Are we are
looking to
build on what people already know, those who are already interested
in CHAT,
SCT, etc, or are we looking to introduce and gather more into the
fold?
Certainly a combination is possible. In addition, if materials are in
different languages, will there be translations available for all
of them?
Would postings (or however we communicate) be in English or multiple
languages? Will we need translators? Quite a number of logistics
issues, but
I think they can be easily resolved.
Tuition?
~em
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bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of mike cole
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:08 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
Hi Luisa-
The experience of a team of implementers would be necessary, I am
pretty
sure. We would need to host archived lectures, discussions around
them. We
have to pick the medium of discussion (list serve, blog, moodle
that would
be most widely accessible). We would have to decide if this was
just a
total
free for all, or whether, for example, we would have a sequence
that got
repeated yearly, which could of course grow to be a sequence of
sequences.
We would have to select texts, ideally in more than just English,
where
possible. And of course, the theme of the first course: Maybe
something
inclusive like "One Open Source Introduction to Socio-cultural-
historical
approaches to human nature: Basic texts and concepts" (But maybe
others
will
have better idea). And more.
So, lets figure you would be part of an organizing group because of
your
background in DL and interest in the topic. Andy says he is willing
to
help,
I think i recall a note from Emily in the affirmative, Anna
Stetsenko was
suggested but not sure about her interest, Simon Fraser is
considering the
idea. And a few others. But many are simply silent, either because
they
(mistakenly!) think they have nothing to offer, or because,
perhaps, they
have other projects in mind to which they are devoting their
attention.
We'll see emerges.
mike
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com>
wrote:
What a wonderful idea, Mike!
If you think that my experience might be helpfull, it would be a
pleasure
for me to participate.
Luísa A.
2010/1/21 Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
That would be excellent!
~em
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Subject: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
I guess my question is this:
Why are we not, collectively, offering such a course, where each
member
of
the collective you are trying to form gives a lecture/discussion
via
internet DL? Credit could be given locally, or they could all pay
Helsinki
a
fee. Or whatever.
Wouldn't that help build collaboration or is it not meaningful?
mike
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Dear Mike,
We feel that it is beneficial to inform colleagues about this,
even
if
they
live far away.
With kind regards,
Annalisa
Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
Well, too bad and good luck to those who have the time and money
to
come
to
Helsinki.
Might there be a better way to proceed?
mike
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:42 AM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Hello Mike!
This is not a dl class. Sorry for not being explicit about this
already
in
the message.
With kind regards,
Annalisa
Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
Do students have to be physically present, or is this a dl
class?
mike
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:33 AM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
At University of Helsinki, we are running a Master's program
(in
English)
in Adult Education and Developmental Work Research. This
program
is
based
on
cultural-historical activity theory and aimed at training
competent
developers and interventionists in workplaces and other
organizations.
Please find below a link to a the call for applications:
http://www.helsinki.fi/atmo/index.htm
The deadline is the 1st of February for applicants who have
gained
their
degrees outside Nordic countries. For those with degrees from
Nordic
countries, the deadline is the 26th of February.
With kind regards,
Yrjö Engeström Reijo Miettinen Annalisa Sannino
Saija
Volmari
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