Re: [xmca] Human spark TV show

[Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth@uvic.ca>]

Mike, Larry, I have written about this and show how catastrophe theory (R. Thom) allows us to understand how such a transition may have occurred, consistent with the Holzkamp/Leont'ev articulation:

Roth, W.-M. (2009). Cultural-historical activity theory: Toward a social psychology from first principles. History and Philosophy of Psychology Bulletin, 21 (1), 8–22.
http://www.educ.uvic.ca/faculty/mroth/PREPRINTS/Roth2009.pdf

Cheers
Michael



On 2010-01-22, at 5:42 PM, mike cole wrote:

Larry---

Could we start to think in this way: elements of what created homo sapiens
sapiens was not a single spark. it was, under very special environmental
circumstances, perhaps involving also a mutation of some part of the genome
simulataneously, the coordination of many sparks at one time and place?

Compression of different humanoid populations in Northern Europe
during ice age circa 50k years ago give or take several k years?
mike

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Larry Purss <lpurss@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi everyone
> I posted this thought earlier and addressed it to Mabel by accident.
> I thought I had lost it to the great unknown.
> So here is my question directed through Mabel's response.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mabel Encinas <liliamabel@hotmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:04 pm
> Subject: RE: [xmca] Human spark TV show
> To: Larry <lpurss@shaw.ca>
> 
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>> Hi, Larry.
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>> Before saying anything... did you mean to send this note to xmca?
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>> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:06:30 -0800
>> From: lpurss@shaw.ca
>> Subject: Re: RE: [xmca] Human spark TV show
>> To: liliamabel@hotmail.com
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>> You are welcome Mabel.
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>> I have a question about theoretically trying to connect the dots
>> around a theme of  "theory of mind" referred to in the
>> Human Spark and the notions of development.
>> The show pointed out that chimps have awareness of their own
>> perspective and may have limited capacity to "understand"
>> anothers intentionality. However humans have the "capacity" or
>> "potential" to hold up to 5 levels or perspectives of
>> intentionality of mind.
>> From a developmental perspective of "emergence" the theme that
>> this seems to point to being able to hold multiple perspectives
>> at the same time in "tension".
>> Lave's notion of development as being able to take different
>> "positions" (the structured term is "roles") may be an aspect of
>> this emergence.
>> Piaget's notion of de-centering may be pointing to a similar capacity.
>> The development of the capacity to "reflect" or RE-cognize may
>> also be pointing in the same area.
>> Bhaktin's notion of multivoicedness may be another perspective.
>> G.H.Mead's and W. James social self  also seem to point to this.
>> Peirce's notion of "fallibility" or holding the tension of
>> "uncertainty" may also be implicated.
>> Do  others on CHAT see a biological component to this
>> capacity or the alternative is that our cultures are in such
>> tension with the modern forms of communication that out of this
>> cultural tension notions such as the above are being constructed
>> to contain and give meaning to the tension.
>> What do others think?
>> 
>> Larry
>> I was curious how others on CHAT
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mabel Encinas <liliamabel@hotmail.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:12 pm
>> Subject: RE: [xmca] Human spark TV show
>> To: lpurss@shaw.ca
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>>> 
>>> Larry,
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>>> Thank you for the reminder! I saw the other two: very good.
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>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:19:56 -0800
>>>> From: lpurss@shaw.ca
>>>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>> Subject: [xmca] Human spark TV show
>>>> 
>>>> For people on the west coast of America, the 3rd installment
>>> of "The Human Spark" is on at 8PM Pacific time.
>>>> 
>>>> Larry
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