[Xmca-l] Re: New book on Ilyenkov

[Andy Blunden]

    "It must be added that the Hegelian variant of a deified
    notion or logical idea was nevertheless more humane than
    the newest deity on the altar (the worship of the
    cybernetic-mathematical notion)."


https://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/articles/humanism-science.htm

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 19/05/2019 11:36 pm, Andy Blunden wrote:
>
> David, where did you find this claim about "fighting 
> against the introduction of ideas from cybernetics"? I 
> don't disagree with the claim but I don't know where it 
> comes from and suspect the discussion around it is 
> overcooking whatever the original claim was.
>
> andy
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 18/05/2019 8:02 pm, David Kellogg wrote:
>> Andy, Alfredo--
>>
>> The most intriguing thing about this book was the 
>> statement that Ilyenkov fought against the introduction 
>> of ideas from cybernetics into psychology. On the other 
>> side of the world, Gregory Bateson was fighting hard for 
>> their inclusion.
>>
>> I read through "The Ideal in Human Activity" a couple of 
>> times (true, without understanding much of it). But I 
>> didn't see anything against cybernetics. Am I missing 
>> something?
>>
>> David Kellogg
>> Sangmyung University
>>
>> New Article:
>> Han Hee Jeung & David Kellogg (2019): A story without 
>> SELF: Vygotsky’s
>> pedology, Bruner’s constructivism and Halliday’s 
>> construalism in understanding narratives by
>> Korean children, Language and Education, DOI: 
>> 10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>> To link to this article: 
>> https://doi.org/10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>>
>> Some e-prints available at:
>> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/KHRxrQ4n45t9N2ZHZhQK/full?target=10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:22 PM Andy Blunden 
>> <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     https://realdemocracymovement.org/finding-evald-ilyenkov/
>>
>>     In the era of alt-truth, disinformation and
>>     scepticism about the very possibility of knowledge,
>>     the work of a defiant Soviet thinker is attracting
>>     growing interest.
>>
>>     Evald Ilyenkov’s dialectical approach to philosophy
>>     from Spinoza to Hegel and Marx made him a target for
>>     persecution by the bureaucratic Stalinist authorities
>>     of his day.
>>
>>     The re-discovery of his original texts, suppressed or
>>     harshly redacted during his lifetime, is giving rise
>>     to an enhanced view of his contribution.
>>
>>     */Finding Evald Ilyenkov/*draws on the personal
>>     experiences of researchers in the UK, Denmark and
>>     Finland. It traces Ilyenkov’s impact on philosophy,
>>     psychology, politics and pedagogy and how it
>>     continues to be relevant in the light of today’s crises.
>>
>>     -- 
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>>     Andy Blunden
>>     http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>>
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