[Xmca-l] Re: New book on Ilyenkov

[Andy Blunden]

David, where did you find this claim about "fighting against 
the introduction of ideas from cybernetics"? I don't 
disagree with the claim but I don't know where it comes from 
and suspect the discussion around it is overcooking whatever 
the original claim was.

andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 18/05/2019 8:02 pm, David Kellogg wrote:
> Andy, Alfredo--
>
> The most intriguing thing about this book was the 
> statement that Ilyenkov fought against the introduction of 
> ideas from cybernetics into psychology. On the other side 
> of the world, Gregory Bateson was fighting hard for their 
> inclusion.
>
> I read through "The Ideal in Human Activity" a couple of 
> times (true, without understanding much of it). But I 
> didn't see anything against cybernetics. Am I missing 
> something?
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New Article:
> Han Hee Jeung & David Kellogg (2019): A story without 
> SELF: Vygotsky’s
> pedology, Bruner’s constructivism and Halliday’s 
> construalism in understanding narratives by
> Korean children, Language and Education, DOI: 
> 10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
> To link to this article: 
> https://doi.org/10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>
> Some e-prints available at:
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/KHRxrQ4n45t9N2ZHZhQK/full?target=10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:22 PM Andy Blunden 
> <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>
>     https://realdemocracymovement.org/finding-evald-ilyenkov/
>
>     In the era of alt-truth, disinformation and scepticism
>     about the very possibility of knowledge, the work of a
>     defiant Soviet thinker is attracting growing interest.
>
>     Evald Ilyenkov’s dialectical approach to philosophy
>     from Spinoza to Hegel and Marx made him a target for
>     persecution by the bureaucratic Stalinist authorities
>     of his day.
>
>     The re-discovery of his original texts, suppressed or
>     harshly redacted during his lifetime, is giving rise
>     to an enhanced view of his contribution.
>
>     */Finding Evald Ilyenkov/*draws on the personal
>     experiences of researchers in the UK, Denmark and
>     Finland. It traces Ilyenkov’s impact on philosophy,
>     psychology, politics and pedagogy and how it continues
>     to be relevant in the light of today’s crises.
>
>     -- 
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>     Andy Blunden
>     http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>
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