Andy--
Andy--
Luria used, in his work on combined motor method, the most
sophisticated equipment available to him, a kymograph (See below). In
his work on semantic reflexes in the post WW2 era, he used galvanic
skin response. In his autobio (as I recall, have not checked recently)
he explicitly sought with this method to go beyond "the normal "talk"
favoured by psychologists" (Freud and Jung). Later he used eeg.
Sure there is incredible reductionist bs out there. Nothing new. The
challenge is to get usefully
beyond it, which ARL was not bad at.
mike
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(complements of wikipedia)
A *kymograph* (which means 'wave writer') is a device that gives a
graphical representation of spatial position over time in which a
spatial axis represents time. It basically consists of a revolving
drum wrapped with a sheet of paper on which a stylus
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylus> moves back and forth recording
perceived changes of phenomena such as motion or pressure.^[1]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kymograph#cite_note-1>
It was invented by German physiologist
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiologist> Carl Ludwig
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Ludwig> in the 1840s and found its
first use as a means to intrusively monitor blood pressure
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_pressure>, and has found several
applications in the field of medicine.^[2]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kymograph#cite_note-2> Its primary use
was to measure phenomena such as changes in muscular contractions or
other physiological processes, including speech sounds. Kymographs
were also used to measure atmospheric pressure, tuning fork
vibrations, and the functioning of steam engines.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
<mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
The point is, Haydi, that in this 1932 work of Luria's (prior to
his work with brain damaged war veterans) all his experiments were
based on observation of behaviour, and the subject's psychological
system was reconstructed in theory on the basis of observations of
these "disruptions" of their behaviour, whch did not include
striking them on the head with rocks, but just the normal "talk"
favoured by psychologists.
BTW, "paramedicals" is a word which describes physiotherapists,
nurses, dieticians, speech therapists, and so on, who are not
regarded as "real doctors". Different from "paranormal."
Andy
Haydi Zulfei wrote:
Andy ! To what you've explicated , I'd like to add paragraphs
from the 'first book' again ; one could find relationships
especially when we read the details Luria give us in each case
but one big question remains : the difference between a method
of paramedicals (religious , Buddhistic , intervention of high
spirits as described by Vygotsky when discussing James-Lange
Theory , etc.) and a method of scientific procurement as well
as piercing into the gaps which are being gradually filled by
a process of Scientific Development :