Re: [xmca] concept as gambit

From: Andy Blunden (
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 17:46:44 PST

   Ugh. Victor can you recommend:
   and for my 1997 article that you refer to:
   I think [3] is an old
   archived version of Hegel-by-HyperText.
   At 08:18 PM 10/11/2005 +0200, you wrote:

     First read Andy's Meaning of Hegel's Logic
     Particularly sections VI and VII where he discusses Life, cognition
     and the ideal.
     Then go to Hegel's Science of Logic and review Section III (The
     Notion), Chapter 1 (Life) sections 1645 to 1651 (sections 1652-to
     1677 are also interesting) and Chapter 2 (Cognition) 1677 to 1684
     Lenin also has interesting and relevant things to say about Life
     and Cognition in his Annotations on Book III (The Notion) of
     Hegel's Science of Logic from Lenin's Collected Works Vol. 38 pp.
     164 -238.
     To compare these to Ilyenkov's works I'd suggest looking at
     Dialectics of the Abstract & the Concrete in Marx's Capital (1960)
     Especially Chapters 2 and 3, the first 3 sections.
     And his Dialectical Logic (1974) Section 2 chapters 7, 8, and
     It's also worth looking at his Concept of the Ideal (1977)
     from paragraphs 106 right on to the end.
     I hope this helps
     Victor Friedlander-Rakocz
     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Moxhay"
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     Subject: [xmca] concept as gambit

     You wrote:

     the concept, is a gambit that is in fact a subjective challenge to
     objective social practice (the idea is Hegelian though Hegel as an
     idealist had a much more restricted concept of the negating effect
     of the concept than that implicit in Marxian dialectics).

     I find this comment extremely clarifying (with respect to the
     ongoing discussion) and exciting. Could you perhaps provide
     references for further reading on this? In what works/sections
     would you say Hegel touches on this? Do you have any papers that
     expand on this comment?
     Also, I'm wondering whether this idea was really refused by _all_
     Soviet dialecticians...
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