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RE: [xmca] Further reflections on "temporality" and generativity

I like this view or interpretation of writing because it allows for signs, or representations of meaning, to be "real"--that quality being shared in the process of communicating--but not fixed. Knowledge or ideas have the same quality and should not be confused with actual structures in brain, memory, or mind. Structures exist, but they are responsible for the experience of making meaning or "knowing". I appreciate, as always, Larry, how much you read and carry your references into this discourse.

For some of us it is really interesting trying to figure it all out and using different approaches to do so, but you can see how for others it is just like a dog chasing its tail.


From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Larry Purss [lpscholar2@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:50 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [xmca] Further reflections on "temporality" and generativity

Mike, and Haydi

The question on activity and reflectivity and its relation to temporality
is the question Mike posed.

  I didn't want to take the focus off Haydi's further elaboration of
Vasilyk so I'm posting this thought on POTENTIAL EXISTENCE and signs. from
 Eugene Halton [article is Pragmatic E-Pistols on Greg's post] Halton

Signs involve existence but are NOT reducible to existence, for their being
lies in their being interpreted. in a FUTURE interpretation: in continuing
semiosis. So that a SELF or a sign has a REALITY at any GIVEN MOMENT as a
POTENTIAL EXISTENCE, in Peirce's terms" page 46.

Potential existence, dialogically, as interpreted.  This dialogical
"interpretation" can be DISTINGUISHED and COME INTO EXISTENCE through
"thinking" [reflecting] or through conversation [reflecting] with others
[both forms can be encounters with alterity]  Writing is another form of
encountering dialogical alterity to express POTENTIAL existence.

In other words systems and traditions and concepts [cultural
historical reality] can be USED within the GIVEN MOMENT as signs within
shared understanding LEADING TO POTENTIAL self-understanding ARISING within
shared understanding.

Mike & Haydi , this is one possibility of the temporal sequence of the
lived world expressed within humanness.

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