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Re: [xmca] Space, neighbourhood, dwelling in, in*formation as notions with a "family resemblance"

Hello Christine,

The Rayner article that appears in this thread is my first (and only, so
far) engagement with his work.  Could you orient me a bit more, especially
along the lines of a conversation with CHAT.

Peter, a conversation I had with Mike just three days ago revolved around,
not information, but imagination, in exactly the same terms as you wrote in
your post --a difference that makes a difference.  If I may share an
artifact from my research with young girls in a community learning center
here in San Diego, one which I think can be helpful for us here.


You will see that you can navigate this image much as you would navigate
google maps (that's because it's actually using google maps).  Andy has
circled around here on xmca a picture of connections among thinkers relevant
to CHAT.  I suggest a spin-off of this idea, one that combines the imaginary
blending suggested by the "forest" image in the link I provided above with
the discussion going on here on different ways of talking about "x in y",
space, dwelling-in, in*formation, inclusion, intra*activity, and so many

We can start with locating the thinkers (perhaps at first on a timeline).
 But I also suggest locating these ideas imaginatively, in blended visual
spaces such as in the forest above.  The bigger the image the better, since
the google maps navigation feature will let us zoom in/out.  We can also
have pop-ups at specific "coordinates" of a composite image of this sort,
for example to tell us a bit more about how Dewey thinks of technology, or
Merleau-Ponty of experience, and so on.

I am too busy at the moment to take the lead in this, but I can stitch
together images as they come in and present them to you all in a navigable
interface to see if we find it useful...  To begin, perhaps Andy can forward
the image of CHAT sources/influences that he circles around at some point.
I'll put it up and see how you all like it and may want to expand.


On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, christine schweighart <
schweighartgate@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Ivan,Larry and all
> I have a long interest in  'information' since studying at Lancaster where
> a phenomenological sense encompassing meaning was taken in research and
> developmental work related to the subject. That same community have also
> taken great interest in Humberto Maturana's thinking - where the social is
> not regarded as 'causal' in relating. I am very heartened to see these
> themes coming together in this thread. Much the more so now that Larry has
> opened to consider Alan Rayner's work. Just as Maturana paid great attention
> to draw out philosophical conclusions from foundational biological science,
> so has Alan, and this is as interesting as it is an extraordinarily unusual
> phenomenon in the biological sciences which is the study of living form.
> This is an initial expression of interest as I'd like to go back over the
> thread - I haven't contributed since Larry was discussing Anna Stetsenko's
> work and ideas of phronesis, which was of value to my work too. I'd like to
> mention too that Pina Marsico, who was a local organiser/host at ISCAR Rome
> wrote an article in the same issue  beginning to engage with as Alan's work.
> (Unfortunately she did not get to meet him when she visited the Dept
> Education at Bath recently.)
>  Previously I have struggled to gain recognition for the significance of
> relating these theoretical strands with cultural-historical principles and
> ideas..
> Regards, Christine
> >With you, Larry, and Jay Lemke from recent conversations, one such burning
> >question is a "feeling-ful" framework for understanding activity.  How
> much
> >terra incognita is there here?  Others?
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