[Xmca-l] Re: anachronism

[Huw Lloyd]

Andy,

I think you mean "from a different culture" rather than "out(side) of a
culture". So anachronism refer in this context to an utterance that is from
a different time (and culture) applied to the contemporary. So I think the
sense that you are looking for is "projection", or "cultural projection".

Huw

On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 06:33, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:

> Yes, I mean it in the sense Boas meant when he first used it in the plural
> - "cultures".
>
> I liked Helena's observation, of all the words we have for people who
> don't belong to the relevant culture, but I mean a word to describe ideas,
> claims, beliefs which are "blind" to the incongruity of the idea with the
> relevant cultural context. This is often a kind of anachronism, but not
> always. The lack of a word arose in a controversy here in Oz when US
> cultural norms were used to judge an action in an Oz cultural context. ...
> That drew my attention to the lack of a word, but I don't want to discuss
> the issue itself on this list.
>
> Andy
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> Andy Blunden
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> On 16/09/2018 3:21 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>
> Andy,
> Yes, it might depend on what you mean by "culture". No need to get into
> the battles over the word as anthropology has over the past 30 years but it
> would be worth knowing what you mean.
>
> For example, David's reference to Vygotsky's very fashionable (yes, at
> that time...) term "primitive" relies on a rather old fashioned meaning of
> culture as "refinement" and "development." Thus E. B. Tylor's title
> Primitive Culture was anachronistic (in the sense of an idea before its
> time) because, on this common understanding of these terms, "primitive
> culture" was an oxymoron.
>
> I assume that you mean culture in the sense that anthropologists use it
> today (or, I should say, as they used to use it not so long ago). Is that
> right?
>
> -greg
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM Andy Blunden < <andyb@marxists.org>
> andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>
>> Everyone knows what "anachronism" means. "Out of time" so to speak.
>>
>> Is there a word for "out of culture"?
>>
>> Andy
>>
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