[Xmca-l] Re: Taxis and Embedding in Conversation

[mike cole]

Thanks for the links, Michael. Seeing these ideas embodied in research
practices that yield what appears to be useful empirical grounding is very
helpful in dealing with the high level abstractions.

mike

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth <
wolffmichael.roth@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just looked and I see the introduction and the first chapter can be read
> on Google:
> https://books.google.ca/books?id=0SWWAOazlRUC&printsec=
> frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
> Michael
>
>
> Wolff-Michael Roth, Lansdowne Professor
>
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>
> New book: *The Mathematics of Mathematics
> <https://www.sensepublishers.com/catalogs/bookseries/new-
> directions-in-mathematics-and-science-education/the-
> mathematics-of-mathematics/>*
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth <
> wolffmichael.roth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In that case, Larry may be interested in the relevant chapter  in
> >
> > Roth, W.-M. (2002). Being and becoming in the classroom. Westport, CT:
> > Ablex/Greenwood.
> >
> > I think it is chapter 2 that is entitled "Being-in and Being-with".
> >
> > The work in the book arises out of my classroom work, as a teacher (not
> as
> > a university professional going back to the classroom, though this is
> > described in the book, too, but as a resident classroom teacher---who
> > eventually becomes a university professor).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Wolff-Michael Roth, Lansdowne Professor
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------------
> > Applied Cognitive Science
> > MacLaurin Building A567
> > University of Victoria
> > Victoria, BC, V8P 5C2
> > http://web.uvic.ca/~mroth <http://education2.uvic.ca/faculty/mroth/>
> >
> > New book: *The Mathematics of Mathematics
> > <https://www.sensepublishers.com/catalogs/bookseries/new-
> directions-in-mathematics-and-science-education/the-
> mathematics-of-mathematics/>*
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Martin John Packer <
> > mpacker@uniandes.edu.co> wrote:
> >
> >> Right, Michael. But Nancy is extending the philosophical project of a
> >> Dasein analytic. I took Larry to be asking about applications, so to
> speak,
> >> in psychology or education.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jul 5, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth <
> >> wolffmichael.roth@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I think the most extended meditation on being-with in recent years is
> >> that
> >> > by Jean-Luc Nancy. It is an integral part of *Being Singular Plural*,
> >> and
> >> > he also deals with it in an essay "The being-with of being there" in
> >> > the *Continental
> >> > Philosophy Review*, 2008.
> >> > Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Wolff-Michael Roth, Lansdowne Professor
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --------------------
> >> > Applied Cognitive Science
> >> > MacLaurin Building A567
> >> > University of Victoria
> >> > Victoria, BC, V8P 5C2
> >> > http://web.uvic.ca/~mroth <http://education2.uvic.ca/faculty/mroth/>
> >> >
> >> > New book: *The Mathematics of Mathematics
> >> > <https://www.sensepublishers.com/catalogs/bookseries/new-dir
> >> ections-in-mathematics-and-science-education/the-mathematics
> >> -of-mathematics/>*
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Martin John Packer <
> >> mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Larry,
> >> >>
> >> >> The principal exploration of mitsein (being-with) that I know of is
> >> with
> >> >> regard to therapy. Existential therapy in particular, for example…
> >> >>
> >> >> <http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00071773.2005.11006556>
> >> >>
> >> >> Martin
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Lplarry <lpscholar2@gmail.com<mailto:l
> >> >> pscholar2@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Martin,
> >> >> Thanks for this clarification.
> >> >> So mitsein is a particular mode of being- there in the here-and-now
> >> >> situation.
> >> >> mitsein being  a mode that (could be) in the realm of possibility in
> >> the
> >> >> here and now situation.
> >> >> Does this mode of mitsein express an affinity with James Ma’s focus
> on
> >> >> intellectual virtues?
> >> >> The focus on higher academic teaching and learning as a process of
> >> >> cultivation of the mode of mitsein as a could be possible dasein?
> >> >> In contrast to the dominant mode of instrumental mastery
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> >> >>
> >> >> From: Martin John Packer
> >> >> Sent: July 5, 2017 2:57 PM
> >> >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Taxis and Embedding in Conversation
> >> >>
> >> >> Larry,
> >> >>
> >> >> Dasein is usually unpacked as ‘Being-there,’ and it is said that
> >> >> Heidegger’s point was that humans understand themselves, and one
> >> another,
> >> >> in terms of their situatedness. In the here-&-now, not in the entire
> >> >> cosmos!  :)
> >> >>
> >> >> There is a discussion of mitsein in Being & Time, too. But Gadamer
> >> >> certainly gave it more emphasis than Heidegger did. Mitsein, for
> >> Heidegger,
> >> >> is a mode or aspect of Dasein. It is a way in which Dasein (human
> >> being)
> >> >> can be.
> >> >>
> >> >> Martin
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com
> <mailto:l
> >> >> pscholar2@gmail.com><mailto:lpscholar2@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Less a protesting intent than da-sein [being-THAT] . Gadamer
> >> >> points out that Heiddeger's focus on da-sein pervades his project and
> >> that
> >> >> Gadamer intende to shift towards the centrality of mit-sein
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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