[Xmca-l] Re: Community Psychology

[Greg Thompson]

Cliff, thanks for this.
Michael, yes, I'm entirely in agreement about the importance of the
intransigence of a meaning of a concept for the individual - it has to be
something outside of us in order to be of value to us, i.e. to enable
newness, growth, development.

Where I get tripped up is: does meaning have to be intransigent for a given
community? I suppose the answer is: yes, if the point is the growth of that
community. But maybe not if the point is the growth of the individuals in
that community (for whom the meaning may indeed be intransigent).

Maybe.
-greg



On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Cliff O'Donnell <cliffo@hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Greg, for an overview of the Yale Psycho-Educational Clinic, see:
>
> Goldenburg, I. and Levine, M. (1969), The development and evolution of the
> YALE PSYCHO-EDUCATIONAL CLINIC. Applied Psychology: An International
> Review, 18, 101–110. doi: 10.1111/j.1464-0597.1969.tb00671.x
>
> Cliff
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>
> Mike,
>> Just wondering if you had any observations to share about the Yale
>> Psycho-Educational Clinic?
>> (or maybe you had left Yale by then?).
>> Seemed like an interesting attempt to create a setting that would be neat
>> to hear more about from the outside.
>> -greg
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:19 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Trying to follow through on each of the concepts, Cliff.
>>>
>>> In this connection, I notice that you use the term "activity setting"
>>> which
>>> you attribute to Vygotsky. The book I took the McDermott materials from
>>> is
>>> called "Understanding Practice: Perspectives on activity and context. In
>>> that book, in the discussions among authors, Engestrom is led to declare
>>> that "the activity is the context."
>>>
>>> So my mind is spinning around what an activity setting might refer to
>>> over
>>> and above "activity." And then there is the question of how your use of
>>> the
>>> term context and the word setting relate to each other. And all of this
>>> is
>>> presumably closely linked to the discussion on text/context.
>>>
>>> Interesting to revisit old topics from new perspectives.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Cliff O'Donnell <cliffo@hawaii.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike. Attached is the manuscript for my 2012 article with Roland.
>>>> In it we discuss how we are using the concepts of context, culture, and
>>>> intersubjectivity.
>>>> Note that context is expressed in one of the goals of community
>>>>
>>> psychology
>>>
>>>> by its professional organization,
>>>> the Society for Community Research and Action (SCRA):
>>>> ‘'to promote theory development and research that increases
>>>> our understanding of human behavior in context’'
>>>> (SCRA 2010 )."
>>>>
>>>> After discussing the many meanings of culture, we used the definition as
>>>> the "shared meanings of people, developed through their history
>>>> and activities." Also in our discussion of intersubjectivity, we noted
>>>> "intersubjectivity does not imply uniformity. Diversity may be a shared
>>>> value,
>>>> agreement about process may allow frequent conflict, and there will
>>>>
>>> always
>>>
>>>> be differences among people in their skills, thoughts, experience, and
>>>> emotions. In
>>>> addition, activity settings are dynamic; their characteristics are in
>>>>
>>> flux
>>>
>>>> and, therefore, the intersubjectivity of their participants change over
>>>> time (O’Donnell et al.
>>>> 1993, p. 507)."
>>>>
>>>> Cliff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 8:26 AM, mike cole wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alfredo's comments sent me looking for background material on the CC
>>>> side
>>>>
>>>>> of Roland and Cliff's article.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an article by Seymour as part of a special issue of MCA a
>>>>> while
>>>>> ago. It seems not to have attraced the notice it deserves.Attached.
>>>>> Also attached is a recent summary of Community Psychology and
>>>>>
>>>> Intervention
>>>
>>>> research which seemed like promising background and perhaps a source of
>>>>> additional ideas, since intervention is what so many us do
>>>>>
>>>> professionally.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Myself, I have been thinking about why Roland and Cliff identified
>>>>> secondary intersubjectivity as a key common principle.
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>>>>> object
>>>>> that creates history. Ernst Boesch
>>>>> <Revisiting the Creating of Settings.pdf><communitypsych.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>>> object
>>> that creates history. Ernst Boesch
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>
>
> Clifford R. O'Donnell, Ph.D.
> Professor Emeritus
> Past-President, Society for Community Research and Action (APA Division 27)
>
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>


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