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Re: [xmca] new video from Nikolai Veresov

I would like to explore this notion of the contrast between
*transformation* and *reorganization* by bringing Vladimir Zinchenko to the

In his discussion recommending using the term *organic psychology* as a
term for non-classical psychology he is exploring the *transformation* of
ideal into real forms.  He is arguing ideal and real forms are LIVING forms
that possess common properties and therefore are potentially and actually
compatible AS organic psychology and AS romantic science.

However compatible ideal and real forms might be they cannot automatically
be *transformed* into one another. Hence the problem of
*transition* between real and ideal forms.

Organic psychology abandons the sharp distinction between ideal and real
forms along such distinctions AS objective/subjective; external/internal;
and body/soul.

Both TYPES of form are objective and subjective at the same time, though to

This notion that it is not polarities, but *degrees* seems central to
organic psychology but I'm still questioning Vladimir's use of
*transformation* and Nikolai's questioning if *reorganization* is a more
useful term than transformation??


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nikolai
> Thanks for this video.  Your recommendations for where do we go next in
> moving to a more complex understanding of Cultural Historical theory are
> thought provoking.
> In particular I wonder if authors such as Anna Steksenko who have used the
> term *transformation* have engaged in a conversation with using the concept
> *reorganization*.
> In the "drama of development" are these two terms, [transformation or
> reorganization] being rhetorically answered??
> Larry
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:12 AM, C Barker <C.Barker@mmu.ac.uk> wrote:
>> It's good to see that the second part of Nikolai Veresov's talk on "The
>> intellectual and cultural history of cultural-historical theory: rethinking
>> the past for the future" is now available to watch:
>> https://vimeo.com/57250619
>> Colin Barker
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