The idea that AR is not a method was there from the beginning I think and the work done by Lewin, Lippitt and others with CCI. It was always considered an approach but not a specific research method. I don't think it has anything to do with any philosophers. Michael ________________________________ From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu on behalf of Martin Packer Sent: Tue 7/17/2012 10:36 PM To: lchcmike@gmail.com; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: Re: [xmca] Understanding is no method but rather a form ofcommunication Mike, Bridget Somekh and Morten Nissen refer to Gadamer in their introduction to the special issue - they mention that his distrust of method (see my note to David) has been taken up by some action researchers, who argue that AR is not a method, or has no methodology. Insofar as the other articles are based on Vygotsky/Leontiev and/or Lewin, their sources predate Gadamer and Habermas. Martin On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:26 PM, mike cole wrote: > My question is kind of like Peter's. Why didn't these issues arise when we > had the discussion of the special issue on Action research?? > > What side were those colleagues on in the Habermas-Gadamer debate? > > mike > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote: > >> So, just wondering, if action research is truly a bottom-up activity, why >> go to theorists to justify it? >> >> Peter Smagorinsky<http://www.coe.uga.edu/~smago/vita/vitaweb.htm> >> Distinguished Research Professor< >> http://www.ovpr.uga.edu/docs/policies/iga/DRP-Guidelines.pdf> of< >> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/of> English Education< >> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> >> Department of Language and Literacy Education< >> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> >> The University of Georgia<http://www.uga.edu/> >> 309 Aderhold Hall<http://www.coe.uga.edu/about/directions.html> >> Athens<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens,_Georgia>,< >> http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02/> GA< >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state)> 30602< >> http://www.city-data.com/zips/30602.html> >> >> Advisor, Journal of Language and Literacy Education< >> http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/> >> Follow JoLLE on twitter @Jolle_uga >> >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On >> Behalf Of Martin Packer >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:23 PM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Understanding is no method but rather a form of >> communication >> >> Hi Larry, >> >> I think Gadamer made a valuable contribution to the philosophy and theory >> of hermeneutics, and showed the importance of interpretation in all fields. >> But there are, to my thinking, limitations to his analysis that suggest to >> me that one has to turn elsewhere for a basis for action research. Mainly, >> there is no place for systematic *mis*understanding in Gadamer's >> hermeneutics. He presumes a community of like-minded people, united in >> mutual understanding. it would be nice, I suppose, if life were like that, >> but surely it is not. In most places there is 'an Other who *is* an object >> for the subject,' to play with the words you quoted from Gadamer. The >> debates between Gadamer and Habermas in the 1970s centered around the issue >> of whether there is a place for critique in hermeneutics. >> >> Here's one good summary of the debate: >> Mendelson, J. (1979). The Habermas-Gadamer debate. New German Critique, >> 18, 44-73. >> >> Martin >> >> On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Larry Purss wrote: >> >>> I have been reflecting on action research and the turn it took into >>> discussing voice, tone of voice, and the loss or extinguishing of voice >>> when others are marginalized. >>> >>> I came across this statement from Gadamer who wrote the foreword to the >>> book "Introduction to Philosophical Hermeneutics" by Jean Grondin. >>> >>> "So, understanding is no method but rather a form of community among >> those >>> who understand each other. Thus a DIMENSION is OPENED up that is not just >>> one among many FIELDS of inquiry but rather constitutes the PRAXIS OF >> LIFE. >>> >>> Gadamer is exploring the 2nd person voice and putting it play with the >> 1st >>> person and 3rd person voice. >>> >>> I wanted to abstract this dis-position towards the 2nd voice. I want to >> now >>> embed this statement in its context. Gadamer wrote, >>> >>> "But it was only when Dilthey and his school gained influence on the >>> phenomenological movement that understanding was no longer MERELY >>> juxtaposed with conceptualization and explanation."[Gadamer, foreword] >>> >>> In other words, understanding came to be seen as constituting the very >>> fundamental structure of human becoming-in-the-world and moved to the >> very >>> center of philosophy. >>> >>> "Thereby subjectivity and self-consciousness lost their primacy. Now >> there >>> is an Other who is not an object for the subject - but someone to whom we >>> are BOUND in the reciprocations of language and life. So, understanding >> is >>> no method but rather a form of COMMUNITY among those who understand each >>> other. Thus a dimension is opened up that is not just one among many >> fields >>> but rather constitutes the praxis of life." [Gadamer, foreword] >>> >>> Gadamer's tone of voice may have something to contribute to action >> research. >>> >>> Larry >>> __________________________________________ >>> _____ >>> xmca mailing list >>> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> >>> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> __________________________________________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> >> __________________________________________ >> _____ >> xmca mailing list >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca >> >> > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
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