Re: [xmca] Interpreting Leontiev: functionalism and Anglo Finnish Insufficiences

[Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>]

The way you have explained Vasilyuk's ideas makes them very attractive 
for me. I would certainly be interested in following up these ideas. All 
that stuff around exploring crisis situations sounds very fruitful to me.
On the other hand, even before I came to CHAT I felt that "values" was a 
very derivative concept, and in general it seems to be treated as a 
second order concept in CHAT. Values are real enough, and I can see that 
they are explanatory up to a point. But I wouldn't take them as basic.

But thanks for that Vasilyuk stuff!!

Andy

christine schweighart wrote:
> Andy,
>  On appropriating motive Perhaps bringing in Fyodor Vasilyuk's ' The 
> Psychology of Experiencing . An Analysis of how critical situations 
> are dealt with' 1984/88 would be relevant. The theme goes back to the 
> earlier thread of 'parallel' subjectivity of Gonzalez Rey from social 
> relations ,  Vasilyuk sees  a relation between motive  and 'values' :
>  
> "  In the first place, by the fact that values in themselves have no 
> stimulating energy and force and therefore  are incapable of directly 
> compelling motives and behaviour to obey them.
>  A value does, on the other hand, have the power to produce emotions, 
> for instance if a choice already made is clearly in conflict with it. 
> This means that the value must be taken ( in the terms of the 
> psychological theory of activity) to be in the same category as 
> motive, for emotions relate to separate activities, reflecting the 
> course of their realisation of various motives..(.ref.)
> ..... 
> It is possible to suppose that in the course of individual development 
> values undergo a definite evolution, changing not only in content but 
> in motivational status as well, in the place they occupy and the role 
> they play in the structure of life activity'  p139
>  
>  Vasilyuk's interest in a critical-situation threshold and dealing 
> with them is to be seen as an 'individual's investigation of the 
> situation (which is )  not cognitive in intent, nor is it intellectual 
> in method, it is trying to find answers not to universal questions but 
> to questions of vital interest to the individual. It is not rational 
> cognition, but probing of the internal and external bounds of 
> possibility, a testing out of the world and of the self.' He refers to 
> a coming up against a reality 'such as never was' always at a border 
> line , which require creativity and can become growing points.
>  In the book Vasilyuk explores 'frustration' suggests a 'typology of 
> frustration behaviours'. then explores Conflict and Crisis, defence 
> mechanisms. Related to  ‘experiencing ‘ hedonist’ ‘realistic’ ‘value’ 
> and  ‘creative’ l  experiencing. I was interested that he also tried 
> to situate 'energy' into his schema.
>  
> In Chapter 3 he considers  these dynamics in ‘cultural-historical 
> determination of experiencing – he goes on to explore archetypes  and 
> schemas or collective concepts  for ‘depth of perspective of meaning’ –  
> These 'schematisms of consciousness' / archetypes and he mentions a 
> few examples of this kind - 'are able to serve as a form through which 
> an individual makes sense of, or re-interprets, the events and 
> circumstances of life, and are thus a culturally prescribed form for 
> individual experiencing'  one which he sharply differentiates from 
> intellectual acquisition of knowledge, entering into 'not by mind 
> alone but involves the whole of life', or an 'attuning' when 'one has 
> attained a state of consciousness 'appropriate to the internal order 
> of the schematism concerned'...'attuned ??.
>  I hadn't read this mentioned much before I found my way to this book, 
> seems very relevant to this discussion,  though too much for me to 
> take on at once.   The focus that makes it interesting is that 
> Vasilyuk is trying ( at that time  ) to look at ‘a life as a whole’, 
> biography and critical situations. And struggles of realizing integrity.
> Christine.

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*Andy Blunden*
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