Re: Re: [xmca] Interpreting Leontiev: functionalism and Anglo Finnish Insufficiences

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

It is a very interesting suggestion to look to Vasiliuk with respect to the
intellectual issues here, Christine. The book is not widely available, I
believe. But in this group,
one never knows.

I have an old paperback copy, but perhaps there is a pdf? Is anyone in
touch with Fyodor V to find out if he would mind? He has the right to.

mike

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:27 AM, christine schweighart <
schweighartgate@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Andy,
>  On appropriating motive Perhaps bringing in Fyodor Vasilyuk's ' The
> Psychology of Experiencing . An Analysis of how critical situations are
> dealt with' 1984/88 would be relevant. The theme goes back to the earlier
> thread of 'parallel' subjectivity of Gonzalez Rey from social relations ,
>  Vasilyuk sees  a relation between motive  and 'values' :
>
> "  In the first place, by the fact that values in themselves have no
> stimulating energy and force and therefore  are incapable of directly
> compelling motives and behaviour to obey them.
>  A value does, on the other hand, have the power to produce emotions, for
> instance if a choice already made is clearly in conflict with it. This
> means that the value must be taken ( in the terms of the psychological
> theory of activity) to be in the same category as motive, for emotions
> relate to separate activities, reflecting the course of their realisation
> of various motives..(.ref.)
> .....
> It is possible to suppose that in the course of individual development
> values undergo a definite evolution, changing not only in content but in
> motivational status as well, in the place they occupy and the role they
> play in the structure of life activity'  p139
>
>  Vasilyuk's interest in a critical-situation threshold and dealing with
> them is to be seen as an 'individual's investigation of the situation
> (which is )  not cognitive in intent, nor is it intellectual in method, it
> is trying to find answers not to universal questions but to questions of
> vital interest to the individual. It is not rational cognition, but probing
> of the internal and external bounds of possibility, a testing out of the
> world and of the self.' He refers to a coming up against a reality 'such as
> never was' always at a border line , which require creativity and can
> become growing points.
>  In the book Vasilyuk explores 'frustration' suggests a 'typology of
> frustration behaviours'. then explores Conflict and Crisis, defence
> mechanisms. Related to  ‘experiencing ‘ hedonist’ ‘realistic’ ‘value’ and
>  ‘creative’ l  experiencing. I was interested that he also tried to situate
> 'energy' into his schema.
>
> In Chapter 3 he considers  these dynamics in ‘cultural-historical
> determination of experiencing – he goes on to explore archetypes  and
> schemas or collective concepts  for ‘depth of perspective of meaning’ –
> These 'schematisms of consciousness' / archetypes and he mentions a few
> examples of this kind - 'are able to serve as a form through which an
> individual makes sense of, or re-interprets, the events and circumstances
> of life, and are thus a culturally prescribed form for individual
> experiencing'  one which he sharply differentiates from intellectual
> acquisition of knowledge, entering into 'not by mind alone but involves the
> whole of life', or an 'attuning' when 'one has attained a state of
> consciousness 'appropriate to the internal order of the schematism
> concerned'...'attuned ??.
>  I hadn't read this mentioned much before I found my way to this book,
> seems very relevant to this discussion,  though too much for me to take on
> at once.   The focus that makes it interesting is that Vasilyuk is trying (
> at that time  ) to look at ‘a life as a whole’, biography and critical
> situations. And struggles of realizing integrity.
> Christine.
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