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Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
Hi Peter!
Can you provide a link to this chapter?
Robert
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Helena Worthen
<helena.worthen@berkeley.edu>wrote:
> Robert, do you have the link for the Smagorinsky article?
>
> Helena
>
>
> Helena Worthen
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> On Nov 1, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Robert Lake wrote:
>
> > *Hi Everyone,*
> > *Don't forget this from Peter Smagorinsky (See below).*
> > *
> > *
> > *Robert Lake*
> >
> > In case anyone's interested, I coauthored a book chapter on Freire and
> > Vygotsky. In my view, they're a hard pair to match, as we outline in the
> > chapter. I don't have the final pdf but am attaching the last version I
> > have of the manuscript during editing.
> > The reference:
> > Souto-Manning, M., & Smagorinsky, P. (2010). Freire, Vygotsky, and social
> > justice theories in English education. In sj Miller & D. Kirkland (Eds.),
> > Change matters: Critical essays on moving social justice research from
> > theory to policy (pp. 41-51). New York: Peter Lang.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know of anyone who's analyzed Freire in terms of CHAT, but it
> >> would really interesting.
> >>
> >> In Freire's alphabetization/**conscientization work with adult peasants,
> >> the motivation for the activity is not literacy itself. Literacy is
> >> attained as a means for conducting the activity that is constructed in
> >> pursuit of motivating objects that are identified by the learners
> >> themselve; and there is a systematic use of written artefacts mediating
> the
> >> activity.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Silvio Marquardt wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Ana,
> >>>
> >>
> >> Could you "situate" Freire`s statement within the activity system ?
> >> "Critical reading" as "Activity" seems to be something worth trying.
> >> How far is the "Freire-CHAT" debate up to now ?
> >>
> >> Yours, Silvio
> >>
> >> ______________________________**__
> >> From: Ana Paula B. R. Cortez <apbrcortez@yahoo.com.br>
> >> To: Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@rocketmail.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> >> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:10 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
> >>
> >> Hello, everyone!
> >>
> >> Here is Freire's definition of reading, in "Carta de Paulo Freire aos
> >> professores" (Freire's letter to teachers - In Portuguese at:
> >> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.**php?script=sci_arttext&pid=**
> >> S0103-40142001000200013<
> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-40142001000200013
> >
> >> )
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ler é uma operação inteligente, difícil, exigente, mas gratificante.
> >> Ninguém lê ou estuda autenticamente se não assume, diante do texto
> ou do
> >> objeto da curiosidade a forma crítica de ser ou de estar sendo
> sujeito
> >> da curiosidade, sujeito da leitura, sujeito do processo de conhecer
> em
> >> que se acha. Ler é procurar buscar criar a compreensão do lido; daí,
> >> entre outros pontos fundamentais, a importância do ensino correto da
> >> leitura e da escrita. É que ensinar a ler é engajar-se numa
> experiência
> >> criativa em torno da compreensão. Da compreensão e da comunicação."
> >>
> >> My free translation of the extract:
> >>
> >>
> >> "Reading is an intelligent, difficult, demanding, but gratifying
> >> operation. Nobody authentically reads or studies if, facing the text or
> the
> >> object of his/her curiosity, he/she doesn't take a critical stance as
> the
> >> subject of curiosity, the subject of reading, the subject of the
> process of
> >> knowing where he/she is. Reading is to try to create the understanding
> of
> >> what's being read; therefore, among other crucial points, there lies the
> >> importance of teaching reading and writing in a correct way. Teaching
> how
> >> to read means engaging in a creative experience revolving understanding.
> >> Understanding and communication."
> >>
> >> Well, I don't think there is anything else to comment about it.
> >> Enjoy!
> >> Ana Paula Cortez
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> >
> >
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Social Foundations of Education
Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
Georgia Southern University
P. O. Box 8144
Phone: (912) 478-5125
Fax: (912) 478-5382
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